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Miura, the original supercar

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  1. joe sackey

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  2. joe sackey

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  3. wbaeumer

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    Good filter used for that shot!

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  4. joe sackey

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    Spoken like an expert photographer :)

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  5. wbaeumer

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    ..yeeeeeeepp! 25 years in the business gained some humble knowledge!

    Ciao!
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  6. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Aww youre too modest...

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  7. Brangeta

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    Since it's green, you knew I couldn't resist replying :).

    I agree with what you said. On the one hand, it's a shame to see it looking like that, but on the other hand, it's what the owner wanted. And what better Miura to change up, than one that had already been changed from original several times?

    It's always a huge shame to see factory original cars get modified, but in this instance, the owner just had an already unoriginal Miura customized further. :)

    I personally believe the car is far less beautiful, and far less appealing than a factory original "appearing" one, but if the owner wants a Miura type R ( ;) ) I say it's a success!
     
  8. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    I agree with all your points.

    The problem with this one is that its connections have repeatedly tried to suggest that the factory had something to do with it.

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  9. wbaeumer

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    This car is ...crap! Doesn`t matter how good the restoration was done - the car was not "born" like this or as the stupid "Swiss-version". The current owner missed a chance to get a good Miura again!

    Ciao!
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  10. joe sackey

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    Well, Walter speaks his mind, but Im not going to be as direct and as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    Ill just say that the more important issue is the "cloud" that this car lives under, which has mostly been created by its connections and their erroneous assertions that its 'customization' was factory sactioned, when in fact it is crystal clear that its current and past guises have been the result of personal privateer customization. If its history is represented accurately, then so far as the owner is happy with its current state, its all good.

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  11. bax

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    I’m not ‘avin a pop at anyone ‘ere - just wanting to stir the debate in a good natured way:-

    I've paraphrased your earlier post but do you contend that a miura should forever be fixed in the colour scheme that it left the factory?

    There were frankly some less than flattering colours offered originally and some bad decisions were made by first owners in this respect - should/must subsequent owners endure a bad original colour scheme or vinyl seats forever if this was how the car originally left the factory?

    It could be argued that there's not a lot of paint on a miura compared to most cars - when viewed as a component of the car (a very visible component I grant you) the paint is a very small percentage of your car by weight/volume perhaps you alter more of your cars originality during its first oil and fluids change.

    Many miura now are no longer on their bertone applied paint - even if you ensure your repaint is as close as possible to what bertone originally did it's still a repaint and I can't see how one repaint is somehow better or worse than another just by virtue of choice of colour.

    Isn't the miura such an intoxicating brew that its potency cannot be diluted with paint alone?

    And yes before you ask 3171 was white/black vinyl once but it isn’t anymore - thankfully.

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  13. bax

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    But some look more awesome than others.

    Personally I just love blue/lime green/orange.

    Dont love as much white/silver/yellow/dark green/dark red.

    Wouldn't life be dull if we all liked the same things.
     
  14. bax

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    Brown miura anyone?
     
  15. gblogger

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    Purple.
     
  16. continental circus

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    I'm glad we bring that subject up.
    The Miura that I bought thanks to Joe is originaly Miura Rosso.A lovely color but I am a big fan of the verde Miura.
    My friends and I are having arguments around that at the moment.
    In your opinion,should a Miura keep its original color or do you find it acceptable to change to any original Miura color?
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  17. joe sackey

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    Ive no problem at all with color changes, even if I wouldnt do it myself any longer (been there, done that). If its painted in a period original color as used for the model, thats great.

    But 4 different color changes + 3 iterations of modified bodywork + misrepresentations as to factory's involvement = a bit too much, as I am sure you will wholeheartedly agree. Remember too, the topic is one specific car: 4808.

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  18. joe sackey

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    Eric,

    As previously suggested, so long as you use a color that was used for the P400 back in the period, most will approve, as I certainly would. Verde Miura was used on the P400.

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  19. Miura Jota

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    Go Verde ... Green Go ...as my countrymen say : GRINGO Go Verde
     
  20. alberto

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    I don't get too hung up on the originality thing in terms of colors, specially if it was a bad original color for the car (say, white for Miura's). Personally, I love the colors that Joe used for that Lime green SV with the blue interior a few years ago. At the time it was unique and one of a kind. At this point, I would venture to say there are more lime green cars now than in period (just a guess). To me, all other cars in this color scheme are just copies of that color scheme (as an aside, the blue interior color was not original to Miura) and disapointing in comparison. My opinion (since you asked) is to either pick rare color combo that is unique and no one has or at least rare (and Gary will help you out with either one) or go original (at least you'll have an excuse to have a red car, it's the original color). To me the lime green thing was stunning when Joe did it, but it has been over done by too many at this point.

    Alberto
     
  21. joe sackey

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  23. EMILIO

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    i'd go original
    not a red lamborghini fan, but i like original colors

    for sure, if you want to change color, nothing would look better than the verde miura/blue interior as former Joe's SV: i dream about that car once a month ;)
     
  24. jimmy

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    my Miura was originally lime green/silver and I bought it as red/gold.
    The interesting thing is that if you ask Lamborghinista what they'd do in
    a restoration, without fail the answer is "back to green".
    For non-Lamborghinista, the answer is invariably "Lime green? Eewww. Keep it red!"
    I guess you have to see a lime green Miura.
    Graham
     

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