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  1. pegpp

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    #1 pegpp, Mar 9, 2008
    Hi friends; My name is Pablo and I am from Spain, I have a 360 spyder from 2003 with 26000km, I never have problems with car but yesterday running in automatic mode in my city the car insert neutral gear tree times ( I think when cars goes to insert 3th or 4th gear) then I put manual mode and can came home, I was reading post and I think the problem is the clutch. I ve mane questions
    How many cost fix this problem?
    Its possible to test it without sd2?
    Its possible to change it without sd2?

    many thanks and regards from Spain.
     
  2. E60 M5

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    #2 E60 M5, Mar 9, 2008
    Oh boy!! Sounds like you have come to the end of the clutch life on the current transmission!! Driving in "auto" mode in city traffic IS the quickest way to wear out the clutch!!!
    The SD2 only gives approximate wear on the clutch, good , but not always 100% accurate. You can also make a visual inspection of the clutch plate with the car in the air on a lift. You will need to remove the under panels and I believe the rear bumper as well.
    Pricing, depends on what needs to be replaced. Here in the US it can be from $3k to $8k for the whole ball of wax!

    Sorry! Post some pics anyway, love to see the car!!! Hope you get it sorted out soon, and NO more driving in "auto"mode EVER!!!!



    Robert
     
  3. RICARDO24

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    #3 RICARDO24, Mar 9, 2008
    Hello Pablo , i agree with Robert Looks like your clutch it's dead , here in France it's round about 25OO € .

    Pablo tu problema viene probablemente del embrague , en pais vasco frances aqui custa en la Ferrari unos 2500 € para cambiarlo.

    Efectivamente puedes saber el gasto de tu embrague con el SD2 dite que si esta a mas de un 65 % es que esta muerto.

    Buna suerte.

    Ricardo
     
  4. tstafford

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    #4 tstafford, Mar 9, 2008
    I agree with what I can read of the two posts about :). Can't comment on prices in Europe, but here it depends on what all is done. Mostly I've heard $3K to $5K.

    Also - although the clutch parts can be replaced without an SD2, the car must be hooked up to the SD2 afterwards to calibrate it. Long and short - you need someone with an SD2.
     
  5. Derek Trotter

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    #5 Derek Trotter, Mar 9, 2008
    Clutch only replacement here in the UK is about £1200/$2400 from a franchised stealer or around £650/$1300 from an independent.
     
  6. pegpp

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    #6 pegpp, Mar 9, 2008
    ok many thanks for all, today I test car again it only fails when I drive car in automatic mode and ir reduces from 4th gear to 3th, at this moment many times the car insert neutral gear, also one time when I was trying to park using 1th and R 5-6 times light of gearbox failure switch on and sound a bip for tree seconds then all ok again, tomorrow I will talk with my mechanic and we will try to see the clutch.
    we must try to repair car in our city because the nearest ferrari service is at 300km from here.
    Acording to the workshop sd2 is only necesary to bleeding maybe we can make it manually.
    two questions.
    In ferrari they renew the disc or complete clutch?
    where can I buy it? I always buy spare pars in www.eurospares.co.uk
     
  7. E60 M5

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    #7 E60 M5, Mar 9, 2008
    Never renew the clutch on the Ferrari every good mechanic will tell you this. Just buy the new one!

    When I had my gear box fluid changed, first they removed the under panels, then they removed the rear bumper and yes you can see the clutch plate at this point, not the entire plate but a good portion. You should also change your gear box fluid will you are there and remove the gear box fluid filter screen and have it cleaned off. Takes an extra second and you would be surprised how contaminated these can become with little shavings!


    Robert
     
  8. pegpp

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    #8 pegpp, Mar 10, 2008
    tomorrow we will try to see clucth, I think that it is complety dead, now car in R or 1 run like an automatic car.
     
  9. marky1

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    #9 marky1, Mar 11, 2008
    Pablo are you anywhere near Marbella? It sounds like your clutch is gone. Using auto wears your cluth much quicker. Where possible in the city you should try to leave the car in sport mode and shift gears yourself. It makes the clutch last longer. I use Ivan Fernandez in Marbella for servicing - he is fantastic. He could probably sell parts to you too if he is far away. His number is 627862729.
     
  10. pegpp

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    #10 pegpp, Mar 11, 2008
    many thanks for reply marky1, I already bought the clutch in uk I think that thay have good price for parts, I am not near than Marbella about 800km.

    bye
     
  11. marky1

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    #11 marky1, Mar 11, 2008
    No problem, hope you get it sorted okay.
     
  12. pegpp

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    #12 pegpp, Mar 19, 2008
    many thanks for all, Finally I have the car repaired, I spend about 1500€, In my case the problem was of the preasure plate, For this instalation we didn't need to use SD2 because we don't remove complety the gearbox from car.
    bye and regards
     

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