On a tight course that Consumer reports were testing misc. cars on.... the only car tested faster than the KR around the tight track was a Mini Cooper Works car...
The Z06 is still a few seconds behind the Enzo. The 430, on the other hand, isn't. In other words, I can't expect the Z06 to really rival the 430 when the Z06 can't rival the Enzo.
I beg to differ on that. When a great driver behind the wheel of a Z06 you could rival the Enzo and Murcielago, Carrera GT iv'e seen that car do some amzing stuff bone stock. My opinion the base model C6 should be a rival against the Gallardo, 911 and F430, not the Z06.
Yeah, I don't believe that for a second. Out of 4 tracks that both the Enzo & Z06 have run together, the Enzo is, on average, 3 seconds faster. Next to the current Murcielago, 2-3 seconds. And next to the Carrera GT, 3-8 seconds average. So no, the Z06 isn't rivaling any of those 3 cars any time soon. The 430S will undoubtedly be faster than the Z06 if it's running on the heels of the Enzo.
The times come from various magazines. But.... Top Gear: Z06 - 1:22.4 LP640 - 1:19.8 Nordschliefe: Z06 - 7:42.9 LP640 - 7:40 Hock. Short: Z06 - 1:11.5 LP640 - 1:11.8 Vairano: Z06 - 1:19.5 LP640 - 1:18.14 Autozeitung: Z06 - 1:39.4 LP640 - 1:37.1 SportAuto Wet Handling Test: Z06 - 1:32.7 LP640 - 1:29.2
what kind of power does the 430s have? and how does it keep up with the enzos 660? BTW the ZR1 should have its way with anything below enzos and carerra GTs, and those should be a good race...
The Vette still won't be able for the Porsche. America is the only country that takes the Corvette seriously, to think that the ZR1 is competion for the 430 Scuderia or 997 GT2 is laughable
i would sympathize with the zo6 usually saying the gt2 is in a completely dfferent class. However, after having to hear on other forums the all the smack talk that the zo6 is a supercar killer it is nice to finally see it put in its place. That gt2 is just an awesome machine.
so will one to hit 10.9 at a drag strip? plus the z06 is sort of old news considering the 650ish hp zr1 is coming out... which for $100k is a super car CONTENDER, not killer.. who said the z06 was a supercar killer? unless you consider a F430 and 911 turbo supercars then yeah, it is
how is it not? same class, just less money and more power... i guess you need that X factor to justify the MASSIVE price gap huh?
Wow what a fool. To think a 650hp car that weighs in at 3300lbs with ceramic brakes and good tires wont keep up with a F430 SCUD is stupid.
+1 however, american cars will never be a match for european cars....on a track, perceivd value, depreciation, quality,design.......
never be a match for eruo cars on the track? the c6 Z has repeatedly put a beating on porsche turbos and F430s... precieved value? you can have it lol quality? materials right? sure... cause i know you dont mean reliability...right? porsches have their problems, ferraris have their problems, and chevys have their problems... design? complete opinion but c6z looks > F430 and porsche turbo. Maybe not a 360 CS though... my opinion of course and euro cars will never match americas power, reliability, simplicity, COST......
1- I agree with the value part but everything else your dead wrong. How can you say that when like of the Corvette, Viper and Ford GT can run with the best of what europe has to offer like the F430's and 911's and Gallardo's and such?. How about we toss in a Z06 to run against a Cayman? thats basicly what happend here. 10- To think that way is a very foolish and ignorant way to believe that america is the only country that takes Corvette seriously. But you can't speak on behave of those in other countrys like the Middle east and Japan which has their fair share of vette fans very much like american does and say we are the only one's who care, I can go to practically any Country and talk with any supercar owner who would take Corvette seriously. As far as the ZR1 goes Ha! its gonna be a slaugher house when that gets tested up against the Gallardo SL, 997 GT2 and 430 Scuderia. Iam more than confident that the two fastest cars in that test are going to be the ZR1 and ACR while the other get embarrised by american sportscars once again. My opinion the ZR1 should be competetion for the Enzo and Murcielago, Carrera GT and Ford GT cause its going to terminate those subdary supercars. Mark my words and its only a Sportscar, not a Supercar. .
Calling the Corvette Supercar is a very ignorant Statement and the only car to date that should carry that title is the Ultima GTR. Put in its place I think not I don't concider this a fair race at all like I said how about we toss in a Cayman up against a Z06 or an SRT-10?. cause thats basicly what happened here you got two cars in two diffrent classes racing against each other, sure the 911 came out on top(Which iam still calling it bullsh!t) only cause this is a completely new and diffrent car. The GT2 got this one handed to it bottom line by default, not because it was a better machine overall because the competition is not up to date. But when the ZR1 comes out lets see how this GT2 matchs up against a fair competetor then and we will see who's gonna be shamed then.
Well, I did say the current Murcielago. As for you folks who say the Z06 has been putting beatings down on the F430 & 911 Turbo, are you folks just reading 1 or 2 magazines and considering a 1 second win a beating? Or are you actually averaging all the reviews? Most magazines have seen the Z06 to be just slightly faster than a F430. The same has applied to the 911 Turbo, but it's not a beating when the times are under a second apart. Some of you just seem to forget it varies. And to show you, let's compare the 997 Carrera S & the Z06. On Autozeitung's test track, the Carrera S .4 seconds away. At Beford Autodrome, it's .15 seconds off. And at SportAuto's Wet Track, it was 4 seconds faster. On other tracks, the Carrera S was 3-10 seconds off. This is just to show that you can't say the Z06 murders the 911 Turbo & F430 when other tracks can show otherwise. Now, for those who think the Z06 stands a chance next to the 997 GT2. Nordschliefe: Z06 - 7:42.9 GT2 - 7:38.18 Hock. Short: Z06 - 1:11.5 GT2 - 1:09.7 Autozeitung: Z06 - 1:39.4 GT2 - 1:37.0 Balocco: Z06 - 2:50.30 GT2 - 2:43.56 SportAuto Wet Test: Z06 - 1:32.7 GT2 - 1:29.7 I think it's pretty safe to say the Z06 isn't a threat to the GT2 when the lowest times are a 1.8 second difference and rising afterwards.
Sorry to burst your bubble but outside of North America the Vette isnt taken seriously and since when was the C6Z faster than the 911 and F430. Nearly all of the tests ive seen has the 3 cars fairly equal.
The GT2 is better period, they are not cars in different classes, the Vette has less weight and id bet on a dyno they would put down around the same power.
You bring up a VERY intresting point. What does a GT2 dyno at? I would bet the GT2 would dyno in the high 4xx range atleast 480ish rwhp. The Z06's dyno in the 450-460 rwhp range. I take it you have traveled ALL around the world and taken surveys to back this up? I know for a fact that the Vettes have a pretty big backing in the middle east, theres a handful of people who love vettes in every country. The Z06 is on crappy tires and with equal tires it would be faster.
