Maybe this will encourage some of you to change out your own clutch. I just picked up a clutch on ebay for $900.00 (New Valeo-which is OEM) Just started it today at 3pm and managed to get the body stripped down to where the trans actually is. I'll continue again tomorrow and keep you updated. I'll be doing alot of touch-up painting and definitely some new nuts and bolts. You'll see when I begin finishing up. This, of course, is a non F-1. And don't think you need special tools. The last picture shows the tools I'm using. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Sweet! It tore down that much, that fast, huh? This is encouraging, as I like to do jobs like this myself and plan on getting a 360, but figured I'd let the pros do it. This may make me reconsider.
This should be very interesting. Good luck with the project. BTW, check the tech section as somebody already has gone down this path. Side note though... be prepared for perhaps some smart@ss comments from a few who still think 360s can't be owned by hands-on types. I think it's because the age and price of the car is still such that some think it still should be only serviced by a certified mechanice for fear, I assume, of messing up such an "expensive" car. :eyeroll: This really disappoints me as I'm a closet grease monkey myself and I feel that the 360s have not yet reached many DIY folks yet. Just a vibe from several comments I get of the 360/430 crowd. I turn wrenches not because I am forced to, but because I enjoy it. And yes, not having to hand over stupid amounts of cash for tasks that I'm able to perform is also nice. I always have and I would not buy a car that I couldn't AT MINIMUM be comfortable changing the oil, doing brakes, etc. I think 360s are now starting to reach the level of DIY that the 348/355 (or dare I say 308/328) enjoy. Truth be told though, if I had a 430 those are still priced at such a level that I too might be fearful to take a screwdriver to it and start diggin in. The 360 no longer fit the "hands off" price point, IMO. Sorry for the thread drift; not only good luck, but have fun with the work.
Damn, that car has seen some dusty roads! Looks like someone is enjoying driving their Ferrari after all! Looks good, keep the pics coming for the rest of the work. BT
+100% I wrench on my Ferrari because for me that's part of the "entertainment" I paid for when I bought my Ferrari, same as driving the car.
HUGE THANK YOU for taking the time to document, take pictures and post threads like this!!!!! Keep us updated!!!!
Your going to need to make this tool if you want to get the throw out bearing off . Image Unavailable, Please Login
That roll of toilet paper on your cart is about all I'd need. Just the thought of taking my car apart to that extent would make me poop my pants. I give you a lot of credit for doing this job yourself... I just don't have the confidence (skills) to tackle something like that. Frank
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind when I get there. It's good to know the shape of these tools, it saves alot of fabrication time.
Wil, I noticed that you have two jars of Mobil 1 15w50 in the garage, is that what you going to put in the 360?
This is why I take BIG pictures, just in case some keen eye catches something in my garage that I've overlooked. Well, actually the first time I changed the oil, I did use this and some Castrol 5W-50. But I know alot better now. But don't worry, it didn't stay in long. I read ALOT about motor oil and was really shocked at all the data I read. I guess there are some issues about Mobil and others that use Group III basestocks instead of the true Group IV or V 100% Synthetic basestock. I will be using the Pento High Performance 5W-40 or the 10W-60 because I really do race around the streets.
So.............how's this project going???? It's amazing to me.............on the 348's & 355's the engines had to come out to do the belt service, yet the clutch was a very easy job since it was located at the back of the trans. However, although the 360's can have the belt service done w/ the engine still in the car, to change a clutch requires taking 1/2 the f'king engine bay apart to get the trans out!!!!! I guess this is "progress".............
Great thread and pictures. Thanks for taking the time to post and educate us. It encourage me to think about more than just doing my own oil change. I dont want to change the topic of this thread, but i wanted to know your opion on about the pento oil you mention befor. I drive my car at track days 3 times a year and i am looking for the best oil their is. Can i buy this product at the local automotive parts store. Thanks again and keep us posted on your project.
Well, I beleive the difference on the 348 and 355 is that you can drop the tranny directly down. On the 360 there is the "sway bar" beam blade covering that blocks the transmission from being dropped down, so it has to be lifted out of the engine bay. However from Billwann's clutch post I did see that he was able to remove this swaybar/ beam cover plate from under. From what I can see when I was under my car you have to destroy a lot of under pan coating in order to remove that thing....
On the 348/355, I don't think the trans needs to come out to change the clutch! On the 360, about 1/2 of the darn engine bay needs to be removed, then the trans removed......large job!
The Pento oil is good. I actually haven't tried it yet in the 360, but I put it in the Mercedes Benzs I work on and it's the best I know, without going exotic. I get it from a european parts wholesale house near Anaheim. Auto parts stores don't have it. At least none that I know.
Okay, here's part two. I removed the oil tank, hydraulic line, oil line, starter, and shifted the support bar up a little to allow the trans to fit over the that stupid aluminum bar that they decided to weld instead of bolt on. I don't have an engine hoist, just two floor jacks, and it just practically slid out. Sorry I don't have pictures of me struggling to balance this transmission, and maneuver it out through the back, but it wasn't bad at all. You don't even have to support the engine in any way because the motor mounts are right in the middle of the engine on each side (it actually balances!...cool.) The clutch parts said '00' so it appears someone at sometime replaced this clutch. The ring gear, however, is still the 3 bolt that has to be updated, darn. And of course, the thrust bearing jammed, as I predicted from the loud screeching that changed pitch as I pressed the clutch. Well, the rear main seal gets changed too, why not, I'm there. Plus, I already cleaned it, it was trickling...cool, now my efforts are almost justified. The pressure plate and flywheel looked kinda spotty and torched. Hmmm, I wonder if this should concern me? I'll take the flywheel to the resurfacer guy. I can do this right? I'll see what he says. The paint is peeling off of the oil tank thing, so I reattached it to the trans and it's going to the glass bead place in the morning. He says if I seal it good, it shouldn't get all inside. I gotta do it, this tranny looks dirty and corroding...yuk. We'll see how it goes. I didn't want to mess with the pilot bearing because I've kinda had bad luck with getting them out before, so I attached a soccer ball inflating tip to my grease gun and gently injected it with a little grease. It was in perfect shape, so I want to keep it that way. Spent about 7 more hours today. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
