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997 GT2 vs Z06.......Ouch

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  1. luke9583

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    The Viper has more than twice the displacement. What would you expect.
     
  2. JoshVette

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    Also figure if GM could get their heads out of their butts for 2 seconds they'd learn the stock Goodyear Runcraps are not the tire for the Z06 or ZR1.
     
  3. Mbutner

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    + 1Billion. Those tires are scary... No progressive breakaway AT ALL.
     
  4. racerx3317

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    They went with Michelins on the ZR1. I was in the Corvette tent at Sebring and heard the whole presentation. They had a shootout between Goodyear and Michelin and Michelin won.
     
  5. JoshVette

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    Are they the Mich Pilot Sports?? I know a lot of Vette guys that are running those getting good grip.
     
  6. Pantera

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    And its modified at that.
     
  7. whart

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    All that power, and the ability to launch quickly from a standing start, is only part of the equation. I'd like to know how the car corners, and what the steering feels like; my experience of Corvettes is admittedly very limited and I have not driven the latest crop, let alone the ZR1. The earlier cars I drove were fast, and put power down far better than the pair of 550 Maranellos I had. The GT2, at least in the 996 incarnation, was closer to a track car- an unforgiving suspension, virtually no body roll, and steering that had none of the vagueness that typifies most modern power assisted steering. That said, the 996 GT2 was not only an expensive car to buy, but its value dropped like a rock. It also had interior parts and switchgear that only a Corvette owner could love- lot's of cheap plastic. (But, I'd drive another GT2 in a minute). As for comparisons to the Corvette, who cares? Buy, drive and enjoy what makes you happy. ( I am currently enamored of pre-war cars, and Bentley and Bugatti bitsas- hardly the stuff that would come close to either of the cars in that video, but I would bet are at least as much fun to own and drive).
     
  8. racerx3317

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    I believe they are. The gentleman speaking (I forget his name) said Goodyear didn't have much experience with 20in tires. Michelin did and were slightly faster ontrack so they went with them. I'm pretty sure he said the Z06 and C6 were staying on Goodyears
     
  9. 996TTurbo

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    Are you kidding? There are several 9 sec 996TT's over on 6speed (and guess what, they run twice as hard as all Porsche's do on the highway, not the dragstrip), who attend the TX mile events, Maxton Mile and so on, guess what, they are all beating up on almost every TT viper there, and especially from a roll! Know your facts, cause you are ill-informed. ;)

    The GT2 is marvel, in every way possible, give respect where respect is due. Those who keep flaunting the ZR1 name, don't know **** either. Watch that blower cause severe heatsoak out on the track/circuit, its 150 lbs HEAVIER then a damn Z06 even with it's ceramics and CF roof, that makes up for a lot of its upped power right there, bottom line is the 08 Z06 is much more a track car then the glorified ZR1!
     
  10. Pantera

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    Before you start running your mouth about how god like these turbo porsches are how about you do your home work and look around a bit and show me how many "Streetable" Porsches are out there that are running 8's and 7's in the 1/4. I don't see as many of them as I do see 8 and 7 second Vipers. I can't think of how many times in Car&Driver, Road&Track and many more match ups tossed in a TT Viper and it ended up distorying the competetion with ease from likes like Hennessey. Not including how many priveteers built ones like these.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpra_GIn7gQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZJAHR-6eSQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEeo6l3a6s&feature=related
     
  11. classic308

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  12. 996TTurbo

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    AS I SAID, Porsche are terrible at the dragstrip and still running those numbers, they were built for the highway "brotha", not running full on skinnies and drag radials like the Vipers to get 7's and hell even 8's...

    Pop your 2 worthless cents on over to 6speed with this topic, and well you'll see ;) I never said those TT vipers werent fast, but hey you said no porsche can keep up, well when that is strictly non factual!

    BTW there was just a 1200whp Porsche turbo that DROVE to the texas mile from ny and back, put down a 226.8 MPH run as well in the standing mile AND on street tires, I think that would classify as "streetable" no? :p
     
  13. SRT Mike

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    Self explanatory
     
  14. SRT Mike

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    An informed opinion can be taken seriously, a stupid one won't. "American cars aren't taken seriously" most definitely qualifies as a stupid opinion, and is absolutely fodder for ridicule.

    And you incorrectly ID'ed my avatar! Nobody has gotten it right yet!
     
  15. SRT Mike

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    Much as I feel dirty for doing so, I have to agree with Pantera :)

    Ultimately, it comes down to displacement. Yes, there are some fast Porsches around. There are a lot of seriously fast Vipers around. Vipers have engine mod packages that put them in the 600-650RWHP range, then there is superchargers which range from 650 to 900rwhp, and finally turbos which range from about 750 to 1600rwhp. Yes, that is 1,600 horsepower to the rear wheels. And lest you think that's just one or two making that power, I would submit that most TT Vipers are well over 1000RWHP. Don't forget that you are dealing with a motor with over 8 liters of displacement and very strong internals.

    A 9-second 911 of any flavor is going to get smacked around like a red headed stepchild from even the midlevel TT Vipers. It will have absolutely no game at all for the top guns running 1300+RWHP.
     
  16. luke9583

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    Yes sir, he was running like low 8's at a much lower power level then he just ran for the 226 too years ago, does all of his own work on his car and is his DAILY DRIVER as well!
     
  18. luke9583

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    Wasn't he in prison for a bit?
     
  19. Carsonp

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    you guys sound like a bunch of honda civic boys....


    the point is, the c6 z06 was poorly drivin, the gt2 should still be faster but only by a hair in a drag race, and the Zr1 should make thigns a bit more interesting.


    BTW if you talking king of the hill street drivin cars a twin turboed BBC or SBC by nelson is where its at...


    PUMP GAS and streetable... those porsches 91 oct?

    dont know if this guys pump gas but 1600hp and 2500lbs...
    http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/pix-rides-mosler.html


    http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/pix-rides-73fbomb.html
    http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/pix-rides-ahrvette.html
     
  20. SRT Mike

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    LOL the car burns ALCOHOL.

    Hardly a comparison to a pump-gas Viper that pushes MORE horsepower than his Porsche.
     
  21. 996TTurbo

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    LOL that's for another topic, I won't get into that. My good friend Tommy ran with him back in the day, and well took 2 of his old turbo Porsche's in to work with, and well he never got the work done and his money back. Soooo I can't say i'm a fan, except his knowledge and work is just out of this world for these cars, he's gifted with Porsche's!

    SRT Mike, his car made that on Pump!
     
  22. DMOORE

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    I think people need to realize the a street car runs on pump gas. Not race fuel, alcohol or nitro methane. Otherwise, it's simply a race car that is being driven on the street. Simple.



    Darrell.
     
  23. JLP

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  24. AnotherDunneDeal

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    Did you see the timeslip?? I would need to in order to believe it. 10.8 on a stock car in stock trim including tires is a little bit of a stretch. But, with a certified timeslip I might go for it.......
     
  25. bc8436

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