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  1. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    No problem.

    I posted it for the benefit of the Brotherhood.
    From the side.

    You get the best access from the wheel wells. Remove the wheels and wheel well splash guards.
     
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    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    You know that question did cross my mind. Even though I was able to fit in the space for the tank I really didn't have much wiggle room. I think it could be done on a lift, but I wouldn't wanna try and do it. But that discussion is for another thread.
     
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    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Okay I figure I'll put up some more pics.

    Here is how you remove the fuel pumps.
     
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    Step #2

    Gently pry the pump up.

    I used a plastic cat-claw that is used for removing door panels. Both the tank and the pump are aluminum so you don't want to mar them. We don't want it leaking when it goes back in.
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    Here is the inside of the tank. I took the picture from inside the right side fuel pump hole. You are looking left towards the fuel filler neck, and the tank is laying on it's back. You'll notice that the middle baffle is missing, and can see where the spot welds are pulled out on the right side of the picture.
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    Here is the cause of my tank leak. The CRAPASS spot welds that pulled out. The middle baffle was COMPLETELY off. I could hear it rattle around as soon as I had the tank out of the car.

    I found a guy at a marine boatyard that is willing to weld on the tank. But I have to take it out to him so he can have a good look at it. He was saying that he needs to see what gage the aluminum is. I also told hims that is was a gasoline tank, and he said that it wouldn't be a problem. He'd give it a good washing and then hit it with some sort of gas before he started to cut on it.
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    I forgot to mention something.

    When you are disconnecting the shift cables, you will also want to disconnect the parking break cable and get it out of the way. And make sure you are in a well ventilated area. I had my garage door wide open, and was running a fan at full speed to help get the gas fumes out of the garage.
     
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  12. Gimme Fuel

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    Thanx a lot bud. :)

    Brodas' 4eva' :D
     
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    No the cross member prevents you from removing the crank dampner. Maybe if you till the motor and stress the motor mounts you could do it that way but then you would be hopin gup and down accessing front and top while putting everything together...its just easier to pull the motor.
     
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    Good job ernie...how about measuring the maximum length width and height you could get a rectangular box to fit in that tank space. I'm thinking non-custom fuel cell.
     
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    Great thread Ernie another job well done
     
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  17. ernie

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    Don't forget to add it to the primer page Shemp.
     
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    I'm with Chubbalard on this one.

    First of all there really isn't that much room in there. What you don't see in that pic I took of me inside is that, I'm sitting on my hip while leaning on my other arm. Plus as soon as you turn your head your face is right in front of the engine. If you were going to change the belt this way, I think that you will only be changing just the belt, and I really wouldn't try it without the use of a lift. Just yank the engine out, it really isn't that hard, and it's SOOOOOOO much easier to work on with it out.

    In these pictures you'll see that, just as fatboy said, the cross member is right in front of the crank pulley. It actually sits right smack in the middle of the thing. So, you are really gonna have to tilt the engine up to be able to get an impact wrench on the crank bolt, and then even further to get the pulley off. That is a lot of stress being placed on the engine mounts.
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    Cool thread mate!! Very cool actually! :D:D

    Makes life easy for any of us that will ever have to rip there fuel tank out. :):)

    About BLOODY time too I reckon!! ;);)
     
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  20. ernie

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    LOL! Smartass. :D

    Yeah it is about time. I really have no rush with this car. I get to it when I get to it.
     
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    Great write up.

    I can not wait for something else to break on your 348 (is there anything left on that car that has not been replaced by now?)

    Scott
     
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  22. ernie

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    Another smartass. :)

    Oh there are still a few things that I haven't touched. Hopefully after this, it will just be regular maintenance things, and nothing big. But what ever the case, I'll still post how to threads.
     
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    You've definately got my vote for "348 Post Of The Month"....

    Great job...

    Thanks,

    Mike in Kuwait
     
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    Awesome write up! Thank you for taking the time to make this thread.

    :D

    Is it back in yet? :D
     
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    & HE REMOVE & REPLACE THE 355 TIMING BELT ..WITHOUT
    REMOVING THE ENGINE...L.ROW DO LIKE THEM APPLES

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