VW/Porsche/Audi/Lambo won't enter F1

Read an interview with Ferdinand Piech and Wolfgang Porsche today. No VW owned company will enter F1, as "300 million a year is too much" and, quote Wolfang Porsche, "it wouldn't be too appetizing after the affair with Max Mosley and the women".

 

what a waste...

 

How many other sponsors are thinking the same thing?

Why hasn't Mosley been fired yet? Isn't there a regulation imposed on the teams regarding "brining the sport into disrepute"? Surely the same standard ought to be imposed on the management as well.

 

That's Max do as I say not as I do.

I find it funny that VW probably never had any intention of entering F1, but had a dig at Mosley anyway..

 

The Mosley thing had nothing to do with this, and I won't make any comments as to why suddenly guys with names like Piech are even bringing this up. The VW Group has made it clear for years F1 is not their thing. And I really doubt if many, IF ANY sponsors, care in the long run about Mosley.

Reason?

Viewership and attendance is for F1 has not changed, and will not change because of Mosley's behaviour. And that bottom line is all sponsors care about.

Should Mosley quit? Probably. But not because this clown made these comments.

 

i agree. half of the fans don't know who the hell mosley is. probably they know now, after the scandal

 

That´s a good reason.

That´s a good excuse.

 

Audi is making a name for themselves in LMP1 and while Porsche is competing hard against Ferrari in GT2.

I don't know much about VW in racing with the VW brand.... and Lambo doesn't seem to have an active racing program.

Do they really need to embarrass themselves in F1 as they learn and climb up the ladder? They're already doing well, where they do participate...

~shahedc
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Why would Audi want to enter F1? They are already well into it in endurance prototypes. Plus, I thought the principle behind the development of the Veyron was "we could spend a bazillion dollars in F1, or we could build the ultimate hypercar." Both the endurance racing and the Veyron have provided more real world applications for VW/Audi than a stint in F1.

In reference to Lambo's and racing, that brings up my favorite quibble: Ferrari guys will first say that Lambo sucks because they have no racing history (true). But then they usually follow it with the statement that it is just an Audi (which has an extensive racing history). Always makes me smile!

(I happen to love Ferraris, Lambos, and Audis!)

 

F1 is the best "Brand" racing in most of the world. And expanding as of now. (Nascar here in the US).
Problem is that many manufacturers; BMW, Toyota, Honda, Mercedes, and that little red car maker among others already have a presence.
Getting into F1 now Porsche and Co. would have their behinds handed to them for years. Not the best PR.
An engine program would be more palatable.
If they were to get in it would be better to buy Williams for example and go from there.

 

Maybe Porsche should make a Formula One motor and get some F1 recognition from there.

 

In reference to the original post...
Porsche competes in the FIA GT Championship.
So they already have a connection to Max

 

Porsche has been in F1 in the past. Plus there production is really low. They produce a max of 160 911's per day.

 

what a cop-out trying to use mosely's behaviour as an excuse. just say we don't want to spend the money because we don't think we'll be competitive, after all that's the truth. not like they can't spare the money audi and porsche are making money, but an f1 venture (minimum 3 years go at it) would set them back a solid billion dollars.

 

I don't think its the money, Porsche largest market is North America and Americans show no interest F1. Therefore, winning road races is the best PR. e.g. Daytona, American Leman series, Rolex etc...
The RS Spyders kickin ass!!

 

Was it on-line article ? Can you provide a link ?

 

Yes, lol. I mean as for right now recognition and profit.

 

Porsche has never really been successful as its own team in F-1... sure the TAG- Porsche engine was great, but that was a blip.... their last foray into F-1 in the early 90's was a disaster of galactic proportions.

Besides, Porsche's history is in sports car racing, not F-1. the only VW brand that has any previous F-1 history is Bugatti... but it would not make any sense for them to go F-1 racing, since none of the technology in the Bugatti really applys to F-1... the road car is WAY more advanced than an F-1 car. - yes I said it and I mean it. does not mean that its faster around a track, but all else being equal... way more advanced. so unless Bugatti is going to come out with a $150K car, why even think about racing?

I for one would love to see it, but it will never happen.

As for the person who said that Piech and Wolfgang Porsche were clowns, I think you are nuts! these guys are the real deal, Piech is the guy who built the 917! he is a man who knows what he is doing.

 

VW is doing rally with the Polo in the new super2000 class what (soon about 2011) will be the replacing class for the WRC rally championship as to atract more car manufactures back to rally with a reduced cost package. Super2000 cars are just under WRC cars but are not so advanced and expensive to run.
And they have the knowhow from the Skoda world rally team.

Alex

 

right, and that will never happen, because of the existing offerings from Porsche, Audi and Lambo that hover around that price point.
(911 Turbo Cabriolet, Audi R8 and Lambo Gallardo)

but then again, you never know.. maybe they will come up with something at that price point... but probably not in the near future

 

So was Lambo.

I'm more surprised Ford isn't in F1 with the Cosworth connection.

 

Lambos for show and Ferraris for a Pro. small company and can't compete agains the big boys.. Besides, are Lambos reliable for 24 hr race?

 

At Barcelona just recently there was one in the LMS race - went six hours.

Carol