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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by speed racer, Apr 18, 2008.

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  1. gil308

    gil308 Formula 3

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    A cop shaking and voice breaking up over giving a ticket...I find that a little hard to believe. If it's true, that's real scary...he has no business being a cop. If that's how he acts over giving a ticket, I don't want to go through a door with him.
     
  2. MRONY

    MRONY Formula Junior

    Mar 17, 2007
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    No issues with NYPD, never gotten a ticket from them (my wife did, but she won the case!) Talking about NY State Troopers, who seem to have no job other than scraping DUIs off the tarmac and writing speeding tickets to safe drivers in revenue traps. When I read about a Trooper getting hit by a car during a traffic stop, I know it's because they insist you pull over where everyone can watch you get your ticket, instead of following you to th next exit and writing the ticket in safety. I have been screamed at for refusing to pull over on a tiny shoulder with three lanes of 70 MPH traffic buzzing by. It's because they don't want to have to drive all the way back to their carefully selected hiding places at the base of long downhill straights into a curve!

    Love LAW enforcement, not selective citations to safe drivers in expensive cars!
     
  3. Darolls

    Darolls F1 Veteran
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    That has never failed to amaze me. Even during rush hour traffic, they'll block a lane of vehicles to write a ticket, sometimes backing up traffic for miles.

    And they say these tickets are to insure our safety, not meant to create revenue. Bull**** I say!!
     
  4. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    I only got stopped one time in my 246 Dino GT. I was driving home at night and a cycle cop stopped me for going I think 15 MPH over the speed limit. He said he would never have noticed me but he heard the exhaust as I was going by. So I thought, you get it both ways in this car -- either they see you coming or they hear you going.

    Nice guy, he liked the car. Gave me a bloody ticket anyway though.
     
  5. gil308

    gil308 Formula 3

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    You have no idea what you are talking about.
     
  6. gil308

    gil308 Formula 3

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    Tickets are not to insure your safety...they are to punish you for breaking the law. If the biproduct is you slow down, thus insuring your saftey (and that of your wallet), that seems ok to me. But they do help revenue too...
     
  7. coachi

    coachi Formula 3

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    with all due respect, has anyone reflected as to why cops exercise discretion as to when and who to stop for speeding, and the not so unusual practice of reducing the size of the ticket handed out? If all those driving over the limit (which varies in different places...whether 5 or 10 miles an hour)are stopped, they should be ticketed the same way. The arresting officer is not the judge, he should do his job indiscriminately.
    Any opinions here?

    And why do cops go screaming past regular motorists, exceeding speed limits...and who knows where they are going.....
     
  8. gf1red

    gf1red Formula Junior

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    Those laws were written 50 years ago and are so antiquated, but the law makers keep them on the books... Just for the money!
    Change the laws from the point of anyone breathing gets a license, to proper training to drive a motor vehicle (ex. Germany).
     
  9. 285ferrari

    285ferrari Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Ticketed the same way?? Says who?? A police officer has alot of discretion to write what he feels....Would you rather the officer write the same ticket to you(polite, respectful person) as to the ***** motorist??? The officer has the discretion to write what he wants too--alot of times based on the violation, YOUR attitude and area...
     
  10. testarob

    testarob F1 Rookie

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    ... as it should be.
     
  11. lmunz22

    lmunz22 Formula 3

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    Cops are supposed to drive faster than the speed limit to avoid holding up traffic.

    If they drove at the speed limit, nobody would pass them and it would cause traffic jams...
     
  12. gil308

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    On the roads, and for ticket purposes, a cop is like a judge in that an officer is given discretion as to what and who to write. With reference to speeding, his/her job is to deter speeding. Whether by just parking, or stopping cars. He can stop a car and not write a ticket, or he can hammer you. Many factors go into it.

    "...and who knows where they are going" -- apparently you don't. So, you can't say if it is justified or not.
     
  13. speedracer1610

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  14. RacerX_GTO

    RacerX_GTO F1 World Champ
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    I would say some cops develop a certain amount of bias with sportscars in general, not just Ferraris.

    Take for example, the Stalker Dual radar manual. I would venture to guess, that any cop utilizing this unit for their daily revenue take has seen this manual. Inside the opening pages under THEORY OF OPERATION, the verbage describes items to process as "target" speed. Same with the Operation diagram with explanations(P.16) THEN, when it gets to Faster Speed Tracking Theory (P.23) where it shows diagrams of traffic and lanes the verbage changes
    "The classic example of the speeding sports car...."
    "The third target, the 72mph Faster sports car...."
    (P.25)
    "...a 60mph truck and a 72mph sports car..."
    "...the 68mph target(sports car).....

    So, according to Stalker, the sports car is always wrong. Train the cops that way and they will start beleiving it.
     
  15. tactical

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    Jan 23, 2008
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    Why of course you can:) And your wellcome:)
    Joking aside i apologise for taring all cops with the same brush, i should not have done so:( Two cops in ferraris, one travelling at twice the maximum speed limit (120mph) and the other nearly 3 times the limit (160). Even the police officer who was involved in the hi speed crash in the Testarossa, are not representative of today's police force:) Its clearly NOT one rule for them and one rule for John Doe. So again sorry.
     
  16. Fred2

    Fred2 F1 World Champ
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    No, the law applies to the police as well as the general public.
    As long as they are not in active pursuit, if they are driving faster than the posted limit, they are speeding.
     
  17. M.James

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    If I had a nickel for every Police Cruiser I've seen travelling down the highway at 80-90 MPH, no lights/siren, not responding to an emergency, just driving....I'd have a 430 in my garage.
     
  18. speed racer

    speed racer Formula 3

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    My wife likes to tell this story about her mother. As she is driving, a police car in the left lane blows by her doing at least 10/15 over. No sirens, no lights. My mother in law who is already late for an appointment tucks in behind him and begins following him at the same rate of speed. After a minute or so the officer turns on his lights and his mike and tells her to pull over. He asks her what does she think she is doing and did she realize that she was speeding. She explained she was late and figured the qickest way to get where she was going was to follow him! The policeman was absolutely speechless. After a moment he just shook his head, gave her a warning and told her to slow down and refrain from following police cars around town to get where she needed to go.
     
  19. tactical

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    That is exactly my point.
     
  20. coachi

    coachi Formula 3

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    and furthermore, those high speed chases they get themselves into are quite dangerous to everyone, themselves included. There have been many innocent people who have died due to the high speed chases. Can't they just get the liscence number of the speeder and let him go, then nab him some other time when he least suspects it...a camera installed at the dash will record the liscence plate and the speed...just about the same type of evidence now...no need to kill people stopping speeders on the road, imo.
     
  21. ylshih

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    I think the problem with that is that they couldn't prove who the driver was at the time.
     
  22. menoy

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    What if the car is stolen (as I suspect is often the case in such chases)?
     
  23. coachi

    coachi Formula 3

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    makes sense, however, they do take pictures of those running red lights and mail them a ticket :)
     
  24. M.James

    M.James F1 Rookie

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    There is always the perception police may have that if you're committing one crime, you have the mental pre-disposition to commit others, even if such 'crimes' have no relation-at-all to one another. What is interesting is that statistical analysis does add some weight to this theory. I much prefer the old axioms of: 'Justice is Blind', 'Innocent until proven guilty', 'the law applies to everyone', etc.
     

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