330 on ebay Yikes!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrari-2-2-SH1-Ferrari-330-GT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6212QQihZ020QQitemZ300220033504QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

 

Funny, looking at the pics, my legs wanted to run away from the screen...

 

What's so awful about it? I wouldn't have done the leather covered dash and steering wheel, true, but the rest of it looks okay for a driver. And I think the color looks quite nice.

And remember that it's a 330GT, so don't start in with "the ignition leads are the wrong color" or something. It's a driver.

 

+1
I'd bet the reserve is at least $90k.
BT

 

Hmmmm, let's start with the poor repaint(evident even in the pics). Last I checked the trunk lock wasn't supposed to be painted, the vents look like they were painted with bed liner material-can you even imagine what that paint job is hiding?
I think the gold plated Cavallino is classy, don't you?
The engine bay screams deferred maintenance (Pep Boys fuel line, wires, clamps,tacked on wiring and devices, rust, leaks, etc.
Hood liner? We don't need no stinking hood liner.
The Kmart speakers punched into the package tray are really neat, too. Let's not ignore the after market radio, wiring hanging everywhere and what is that dangling under the dash? A relay?
IMO, it is a mess, even for a "driver".Considering that this car has been "prepped" for sale, that would be enough to scare me off.
But, I guess we all have different ideas of what constitutes a "driver".

 

Not so bad.

Could stand a little straightening up.

I really, really love the wheels.
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No doubt a driver, I would love to have this car.

 

If you think this one is bad, you should look at the one on Craig'sList LA: Yellow, the only color worse than red for this model, IMO.

 

yeah, those are pretty bad...

 

So true. The color choice can really make or break a 2+2.

 

That's transitional audio. It bridges the 60's cars with today, by replicating the audio standards of the 80's.
I still think the car looks like a good driver to me. You are not getting any Cavallino awards with this car, but it is a solid, classic V-12 Ferrari.
BT

 

What a bunch of girls on here (not everyone)...330 2+2's are very often projects...bringing it back is the fun part.

Art...you seen this one?

 

You couldn't possibly know if it is in any way a "solid" car. Granted, I can't prove it isn't either. But, If the seller is so sloppy in addressing relatively minor, visible details, do you really think the rest of the car(the expensive bits) is OK?

 

That's always the argument, and I think there's some truth there. But compared to some of the junkers we've seen, or bodged pseudo-replicas, this car isn't bad.

 

Educate me about why red is poor color on this car...

 

I've studied and instructed a bit of auto design over the years and have owned a couple Ferrari 2+2s. IMO, the brighter colors emphasize the slab sides or thickness of the body. While the greenhouse areas in these cars are delicate and graceful, the sides are not. A darker color tends to visually reduce the car's size and diminish the effect of the slab sides. A color like silver, while not reducing the effect, will not emphasize it either. I also believe it would be more in character with the car's intended purpose-that of a classy, high speed GT, rather than an all out sports car.

That is not to say that I don't find these Ferraris attractive, because I do. I just feel certain colors are more likely to enhance the brilliance of PF's work.

 

Gentlemen,

This car is almost the exact opposite of mine, though in similar colors.

My car is more or less cosmetically original (paint + leather) with issues from age - a 20 footer - but it is honest and complete. Mechanically, my car is in generally excellent condition - everything rebuilt (with the last of the gremlins being hunted down as we speak).

This car is received a quick and cheap cosmetic freshening; it is missing much of its exterior trim and received a very cheap repaint covering god knows what. The wheels are spray painted (including the hubs and spinners, which should be chrome) and somehow do not look right (GTC wheels maybe?). The interior is frightening to me. Why did they cover everything in leather - what are they hiding? Are the seats retrimmed or just redyed? My guess (at least for the rear seats) is a dye-job. By the looks of the motor, my guess is that the car needs about $70K of mechanical work to make it a 'reliable driver'. I'd be curious as to find out what mechanical work has been done and by whom as well as the compression and leakdown numbers.

I have been looking for a fun second project but I wouldn't touch this one with a 10 foot pole - way to many visible issues; not even counting the unknowns. Tom S. recently had a project that looked much worse but, in reality, was miles ahead of this car. If anyone here is serious about this car, get a complete, professional PPI!



gsjohnson,

In my opinion, bright red makes 2+2s look big and bloated, somehow hiding their lines. It looks much better on smaller cars.

 

In that context, I would agree with you. I guess the point to my post was the amazement that someone would place a vintage Ferrari(especially in light of current values) for sale with such obvious defects and questionable "improvements". It has also been my experience that when such things are done, the rest of the car is a "fright pig".

Not saying that this one is or isn't as I have no knowledge of this particular example. I also never said it couldn't be fixed, that I didn't enjoy working on my vintage Ferraris(I do) or that I didn't like 2+2s.

 

Just a little work could have made, or will make this a little more appealing. Proper chroming of hubs spinners and small bits, plus correct color vents would help the exterior. The dash and wheel could have been done more tastefully for sure. At this point I would dye the dash black and go all in for a nice wheel. Do what you can to make the radio disappear.

Then you have a descent looking driver with unknown defects.

Just a little money may bring it around looks wise though. It probably should have been done before presenting it.

 

Stan,

If I recall, the text said that it will not take much to make this car into a great driver - this means it is not currently a great driver in the present owner's view. Mechanically, the car appears to be a series of patches - various sparkplug wires, hoses, etc. Unfortunately, I have learned the hard way as to what is involved to bring a car back from fright pig status - I have done it! But started ahead of where this car is. I bought mine with a freshly rebuilt motor and freshly done brakes then proceeded to rebuild, or have rebuilt, every other mechanical sysatem on the car (some things were redone more than once...).

I keep looking at this car hoping to find something to prove me wrong, but evey time I come away with the same conclusion: Fight pig with fresh, poorly applied lipstick. Considering how the paint was prepped and applied and what was done to the interior (note the wires hanging from under the dash), I would call this a failed amateur restoration. By the way, the dash and steering wheel rim should be wood underneath the leather - It would be a very pleasant surprise to find out that the redo was only the result of the owner's taste rather than the wood being destroyed.

The only thing that intrigues me is the 7500 RPM redline - I think mine is 7000 RPM.

Someone should reach out to the owner, maybe he can present a good accounting of the car; as I would love to be proven wrong on this one.

Here is the car's known history as listed in Kerry's database: http://www.330gt.com/Detail/SN_8953.html

Regards,

Art S.

 

The paint seems like the byproduct of a lack of skills -- or apathy -- rather than trying to hide something. His descriptions seem fairly honest. It's almost impossible to fathom going through the work of painting it without removing, or at least masking, the trim. The interior doesn't look bad except for bad choices on the wheel and dash. It would likely take a lot to get this in shape and there could be a lot needed on mechanicals. Regarding the wheels, I think what looks off, other than everything painted silver, is that the knockoffs on the mag wheels are typically straight-eared.

 

Interesting.... this car is in denver.

I dont recognize the location of the pics in front of the houses (condos/townhomes?) but the pics in the shop definately look like Ferrari of Denver.

FoD could do a PPI, not sure if Dave would know the car.

The ad is worded "we", which makes me think this is a car from a restoration shop here in Denver just off of Sante Fe Blvd, dont remember the name, something like "Classic Investments", but not sure.

James in Denver

 

I noticed the "we" as well. If it is, in fact, a restoration shop, they should sue themselves for malpractice.

 

LMAO...

 

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/654005534.html
This is 7081, used to be silver when it was bought in 1990. Poor choice for the repaint color. www.330gt.com/?7081