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Picture of Specification Sheet available through Classiche Dept.

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  1. Dino944

    Dino944 Formula 3

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    #1 Dino944, Apr 19, 2008
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    Hi guys,

    A few people asked me about the additional information that I paid to get regarding my 328. It does not look as fancy as the free Heritage Certificate, but it confirmed my original interior colors including carpets and dashboard. The research and documentation fee was around $250.00 when I paid to obtain this in late January. I'm not sure if its more now as the dollar is so weak. It took about 10 days to obtain, as I was informed they contact someone in the archives department in Maranello to do the research, then Maranello sent it to Ferrari NA in NJ, and it was Fed Ex'd to me. They required a copy of current registration, and pictures of the car including vin #s on the steering column and plate near the rear deck latch/release. I had it laminated to protect it since its an odd size (metric size paper) and did not fit in regular document proctors, its longer than standard paper here in the USA but much shorter than legal paper.

    Best regards,
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  2. chairpilot

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    Excellent!!

    Thanks for the update.
     
  3. eulk328

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    Sorry to stray off topic but I think the U.S. size is the odd one :)


    "The United States, Canada, and in part Mexico, are today the only industrialized nations in which the ISO standard paper sizes are not yet widely used. In U.S. office applications, the paper formats “Letter” (216 × 279 mm), “Legal” (216 × 356 mm), “Executive” (190 × 254 mm), and “Ledger/Tabloid” (279 × 432 mm) are widely used today. There exists also an American National Standard ANSI/ASME Y14.1 for technical drawing paper sizes A (216 × 279 mm), B (279 × 432 mm), C (432 × 559 mm), D (559 × 864 mm), E (864 × 1118 mm), and there are many other unsystematic formats for various applications in use. The “Letter”, “Legal”, “Tabloid”, and other formats (although not these names) are defined in the American National Standard ANSI X3.151-1987.

    While all ISO paper formats have consistently the same aspect ratio of sqrt(2) = 1.414, the U.S. format series has two different alternating aspect ratios 17/11 = 1.545 and 22/17 = 1.294. Therefore, you cannot reduce or magnify from one U.S. format to the next higher or lower without leaving an empty margin, which is rather inconvenient."

    http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html
     
  4. Kevinwi

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    How did you go about getting the "free Heritage Certificate?"
     
  5. Bullfighter

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    #5 Bullfighter, Apr 30, 2008
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    This one?? Not sure which one you're referring to, but you can order this one if you're registered on the Ferrari site as an owner. I don't have the link handy, but search on 'color certificate' and it's probably posted here.
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  6. magnum

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    Hi guys.
    The Ferrari Owners page will not issue any more colour certificate. They stopped doing it this year, I think, in February/March. I spoke directly with them.
    I'm trying to do my own Colour Certificate, so if any of you is interested on it, I will let you know. So simple with Photoshop.

    Regards
     
  7. Dino944

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    Wow, I guess I got my free Heritage Cert/Colour Certificate just in the nick of time at the end of January.

    Best regards,
    Dino
     
  8. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Any reason?!

    I thought it was a nice gesture and I can't see how it would cost Ferrari much, if anything.
     
  9. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    It certainly costs them time to administrate and conflicts with the Classiche Certification, in my mind..

    But the earlier Heritage Certificate, that you had to provide tranny and gearbox ID numbers, to me should be restablished by Classiche at minimal cost to owners of the mid 70s cars onward that have never been disarranged, how hard could that be?

    It's not as if I'll pay $2,500 per car for vehicles I KNOW have all the original items!
     
  10. smg2

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    I do wonder, it sure looks like it would take less then 5 mins to fake that type of document.
     
  11. 308 GTB

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    #11 308 GTB, May 1, 2008
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    Jon,

    Before the Color Certificate, there was a Heritage Certificate. Mine is posted below. As Bubba mentioned, a lot of information had to be submitted. There are threads on this board which assisted owners in filling out the required fields properly. It was a free certificate.

    Barry
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  12. Dino944

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    Actually, with the exception of the engine number the Heritate Cert. and the Colours Cert. look quite similar. Although, they did not require much information to get the Colours Cert. Also, the Colours Cert. was free.

    Also for the person looking to find the Colours cert section on the Ferrari Owners site its under Cars, then on the drop down menu choose Classiche, then go to Historic Archives, and its under Car Colours.

    Best regards,
    Dino
     
  13. Dino944

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    There are people who can counterfit money which has all sorts of high tech anti-counterfitting markings, so whats a simple document going to require to copy or fake? Documents about the original way a car left the factory are not going to turn an average car into a concours condition show car.

    I guess these documents are like having your car's birth certificate.

    Best regards,
    Dino
     
  14. 308 GTB

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    I agree, Dino. It was nice to obtain the Heritage Certificate four years ago and a number of us here did the same. They asked us to provide the following information (I've listed my car's information):

    Heritage Certificate entries:
    1976 308 GTB Fiberglass (North American Version)
    Chassis number: F106AB 19399
    Engine number: F106A 01503
    Engine type: F106A
    Gearbox number: F106AL 1426
    Gearbox type: F106AL


    It wasn't hard to get the information, but many of us here remember how hard it was to list the numbers in the format they wanted. The form was very vague as far as instruction. There were a few threads dedicated to the proper way of formatting the information requested contributed to by those who did it successfuly.

    Barry
     
  15. irondogmike

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    that true,the as#h*les at ferrari owners,won't do them any more they said it had to be a carb car to do it but bullfighters isn't,so what does that tell you,you register your car with them and they let you down,I'm not going to pay them that much money for a piece of paper unless it says free gas for a year........lol......but if you are going to copy them and it comes out ok, I'm in,just P.M. me thanks
     
  16. Dino944

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    If you are just interest in the Colours Certificate, I'd just keep trying to enter the information in the section on the Owners Forum and see what happens. I know the first time I tried to obtain one my request was denied (not a carb car). But a few weeks later I tried entering the information one or two more times and they eventually provided me with the Colours Certificate, and my car is an '89 328. The Colours Cert. is free so you have nothing to lose by submitting your information every few weeks or so.

    Best regards,
    Dino
     
  17. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Carbed cars can stil get one?

    I need to spend some time at that, when I get some of it.....they actually confrim the original colors and the build date for anything you put into "My Garage".
     
  18. 308 GTB

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    Bubba,

    I tried to park the 550 in the "Garage." They haven't responded to two forms I submitted. I reckon I'll try again.

    Barry
     
  19. chairpilot

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    I'd be happy if they'd just send a postcard spelling out the information, sans the certificate form itself. Hell, I'd even take a verbal on the phone if I could be sure I was talking to an authorized staff member who at least looked it up correctly.

    What do you think the chances of that are instead of a full blown cert?
     
  20. Dino944

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    Just send an email to Lucy Petrone at Ferrari's Classiche Department asking for the information you are seeking about your car. Emailing the information to you is free. There is only a charge if you want written documentation rather than an email. I opted for the written documentation to go with some of the other paperwork for the car, as I thought it would look more presentable than an email.

    Best regards,
    Dino
     
  21. onboost

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    Hmmmmmm,

    Porsche has providing these for some time now, they call it a "Certificate of Authenticity."

    List the vin, interior/exterior color and codes along with the build date and option codes. Roughly $80 as opposed to $250?

    Glad I have the window sticker & dealer sales agreement with all that info present!

    Paul
     
  22. chairpilot

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    Hi Dino,

    On your original recommendation to me, I did communicate to Lucy on this matter extensively in February & March. My recollection was the she said there would be a $500 charge for JUST the inforamtion, assuming they would even make the effort and submit the data. She later came back with a Plan B of another direction tapping other sources to get the same data - $2,500!!! And there was no guarantee the info was still obtanable for my year/car. ($?^X%#!).

    Perhaps I should try again? Maybe if they get bombarded with inquiries from all of us they will be motivated to "open shop" and provide this service for a reasonable charge. I can't believe Maranello burned all the records yet.

    Bob R.
     
  23. phrogs

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    Wow I might have been one of the last ones I recived mine in march. Sucks they want money for that info.
     
  24. 308 GTB

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  25. 308 GTB

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    #25 308 GTB, May 2, 2008
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    Here's a nice alternative to the no longer available Heritage Certificate. If you know the dealership which sold your car when new, they might still have the Certificate of Origin on file. It's worth a call:
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