MEGA THREAD : PORSCHE VS. NISSAN : New GTR : 7:15 around the Nurburgring?

Your right the Ring is BS. It proves nothing!.

 

The point that is lost in this thread is that the GTR is a GREAT CAR on its own merit... not solely based on its N'Ring performance. This is just another thumb in the eye for its competition. It is the best all round car on the road today.

 

Hi,how much more is your vspec in relation to the normal GTR in hk pricing.

Thanks

 

And? I remember back in 01 when the C5 Z06 was released and everybody went hog apes over it just because it barley beat the 360 modena, Its performance is practically obsolete today needless to say the GTR will also fallow in that same road in 4 years from now.

 

Obsolete? Are you crazy? Just because some and in this case a few, much higher priced cars can beat a certain car on a certain track does not make the other car "obsolete". That "obsolete" C5 ZO6 you speak of can dust 90% of the cars on the road. And try dumping 10K into it and see what it will do. Do you consider a car "obsolete" everytime a car is quicker/faster? I do not see the logic in that. End rant.

 

+1 and beyond that point, the 01 only had 350 horses. The 02 and later had 405. My dad has an 05 that has been chipped, full race exhaust, tuned, and will embarrass quite a few cars.

 

There's a new story out there about the fact that the GT-R that ran this sssssssuper fast 'ring lap did it with non-stock settings.

Fanbois can go find it on their own.

Just proves that without any official oversight, it's all BS.

 

The 01 Z06 had 385 HP, the regular C5s had 350 HP.

 

Haters can invent plenty of excuses on their own. I suppose we can toss out most of BS ring time as well since there were no 'official oversight.'

 

Yeah, but it's not like they added anything. Many cars have adaptive suspension you can tune to your liking. In fact Nissan always stated that the Euro GTRs will be slightly different. Better cabin materials and the revised suspension to cope with bumpier roads.

 

I saw the same story.

 

All they changed were the motor mounts and tranny mounts on the subframes. And these will be implemented into all production cars. Manufacturers will make tweaks to production cars as they are already selling. It's a production vehicle.

 

Really the great thing of all of this is a point no one has brought up yet...

No matter wether you like the GTR or you like brand X no matter how much money you have to spend on your next car... the GTR should have an affect on it for the better. The GTR so far has been performing unnaturally well (I say that because I personally think that NIssan is sending out "ringer" cars to the press, easy to do on turbo cars as they did with every skyline the have released) and has brought huge bang for the buck to the performance world. This means that cars in its price range are going to have to try to match or beat the GTRs performance and the cars that are 2x 3x more money are going to have to out perform the GTR.

What does this mean to us?

in 4-5 years, we are all getting much much faster cars for better value regardless of brand...

 

This is a factory stock car run on a test lap in standard procedure.

Most Nur laps are from a flying start on record. Nissan used factory summer Dunlops for the 7:29 lap. The car is OEM, factory.

 

Nissan doesn't provide all the test cars.

Many of the tests by independent journalists are private owner cars. Inside Line used a red loaner car from a private owner and got a 3.3 0-60. CAR magazine... same thing; private owner, bone-stock, UK car.

The results speak for themselves:

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/19/inside-line-tests-nissan-gt-r-oh-yes-its-very-fast/
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vb8LbQPNrRc

 

Incorrect, now I'm reading the suspension was tweaked.

And R compound tires are not stock are they?


Toss some R compound tires on some other cars and lets compare....

 

All "tweakings" are for subsequent factory issue cars. Do you understand that during a manufacturing run, the factory may implement minor changes while the cars are rolling down the assembly lines?

As well, the tires used were OEM factory tires:

GT-R ACHIEVES UNDER 7:30 AT NURBURGRING

- GT-R among the fastest ever production road cars at the ‘Ring’ -

(CASCAIS, Portugal, 1st May 2008) - Nissan today announced that its GT-R supercar achieved a lap time at the infamous Nurburgring in Germany of seven minutes and 29 seconds. Recorded on April 16 and 17, the GT-R used was a base specification car and fitted with the standard Japanese market tires. Driven by GT-R chief test driver Tochio Suzuki, this latest lap time beats the previous fastest time for the GT-R by nine seconds.

full story

 

Whatever you say fanboy.

 

That's what I said, but if you say this to anyone you're merely a fanboy and have no credibility. Nissan is a liar and the GT-R is pretend.

Oh well.

 

LOL. I hear you bro.

I will in futility, no doubt, attempt again to explain to the less informed:

Nissan runs a specific tire to this car that is only available to this car, IT IS EFFING STOCK. It is a stickier compouond but is indeed stock. I believe that those who merely glance at the specs see this as a race tire. Let me reiterate that it is not.

I think its funny that A LOT of other manufacturers indeed used R compound or Cup spec tires on their runs (C6 ZO6 among others) and no one got their frilly panties bunched up. Oh, and the camber is usually set to eat tires and be ideal for the track on much of these other famed runs.

 

Correct... yes... but again if you point any of this out to anyone then you are a fool, liar, fanboy, ricer, idiot, Playstation generation, child.

But then if you talk about set ups and lap times in terms of German or Italian cars, then everyone high-fives you and you're cool, the specs are not in dispute and are great, you're with it, smart, neat, right on, you the man.

 

Dude, don't bother. These people need to hate on something. They don't understand logic.