Spal isn't going to buy you a new Ferrari engine if their faulty part fries your wiring harness and causes your engine to melt down. But if it comes in a Ferrari yellow box, then Ferrari stands behind any damage done *by* a faulty part. For 6 months to a year.
Nope, as in 'yellow box' parts must be installed by Ferrari 'authorized' service to get Ferrari 'warranty' ...... correct ??
That is what I thought......... but then why were you comparing the 'yellow box' Ferrari "warranty" to the Spal part on post #26?? I thought this thread was about doing it yourself? When you have your repair done by the dealer, they will always install an 'ancillary' part with "warranty" ........with parts 'brought in' by the customer even with a 'yellow box'.......... they prefer not to install them ......... and there is no warranty..........
Ferrari of Seattle will install parts the owner brings in. They discourage it, but will do it if the owner insists, and there is no safety issue with doing so. I used a few Hill Engineering parts in my major service and clutch repair...they just noted that those parts would be outside the scope of their warranty policy of 12months or 12,000 miles, which was fine by me.
When I say "ancillary" I mean related parts, not the warrantied part itself. If your Spal fan burns up, Spal is going to honor their part warranty and get you a new fan (time limits factored in, of course)...but Spal isn't going to send you a new motor if their fan burning up caused other parts on your Ferrari to fail. But a yellow-box Ferrari part installed by an authorized 3rd party shop (or even at a Ferrari dealership) is going to come with Ferrari's backing; if that part causes something else to fail, then Ferrari will make you good. So you are getting a warranty with a yellow box part that you won't get with a direct 3rd party part, even though in this case it would be the same fan. The higher Ferrari part price for the self-same item buys you a better warranty (unless you do the work yourself, then you just get the warranty for the single part that you bought).
That is how I understood it from the begining. I was only refering to the 'part' itself warranty from Spal. When doing the installation yourself. In your post #24 you brought up the "ferrari" warranty as if it covered more than just the part. Here: Then I posted: Then you posted this: .......even though you knew if you buy the part from Ricambi the 'authorized' installer cannot warranty a customer supplied part. As f355spider validated in his post #32 Anyway I know this was 'nit picking' but from what I gathered from your post #24, it sounded like there was more warranty than just the part...... As we all know, most parts come with a basic warranty for the part 'only'........................... when the part is installed by a 'do it your self' owner. Of course when you go to a 'ferrari authorized service' you get the 'big warranty'................. that is obviously why you pay more for the repair......
I learned that is not always the case with BMW. They warranty the parts for two years, and will often include labor, even when the owner or third party installed it. For example I installed a "Homelink" garage door opener in my BMW, and when it died 6 months later, I asked for a new one at the dealer. Showed up with my reciept, and they insisted that the part failure must be confirmed by the service dept, and if so, they would install a new one at no charge. Made an appointment, and that was exactly how it was handled. Same thing on some factory subwoofers I installed in my car. It was a factory option, but I added them after the fact. They both got blown out (within the two year parts warranty) and the BMW dealer replaced them, even though I installed them.
Exactly, there is usually a warranty for the purchased part itself even though "you" install it.. ! But there is no 'warranty' to other parts of the car, if the purchased 'part' caused damage to "other parts" of the car.
I was just shocked that BMW would pay the labor to swap out a part I installed...that's all. I figured they would just give me a replacement part and leave up to me to either install or pay them to install.
Oops, sorry.................. Yes you are correct, in that labor is usualy 'not covered' in those 'self install' instances. They went above and beyond in your case.....
OK, all done! I forgot to take pics, but there was really no point. The new fan was an exact copy of the the broken one. Daniel is correct, Spal part #VA18-AP71/LL-59A. The only "alteration" required was the plug. The new fan plug did not match, so I simply cut/spliced the old one. Everything works perfectly. Thanks again for all the help (and savings). I found the below post helpful for the labor. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144705&highlight=radiator+fan John
Nice work, John! (just double-check that you wired in your splice in the correct direction so that your fan is pulling and not pushing air)
I just installed the Spal fan - the only thing I would do differently is stagger the location of where I cut the wire on the New fan and the old connector. It made it difficult to pull the shrink wrap over both soldered joints. I bought two new fans and will do RH one tomorrow. Both the original and the replacement had red-black color code on wiring. I decided to put the OEM connector on the new fan so that I wouldn't change the Ferrari body side harness or introduce another in series junction. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Awesome... !!!! ....................dang ......... this 'F1 world champ' status is taking a lot longer than I thought... ..... I want to be like ND.... !!!
I also installed the RH fan tonight (see prior post on LH fan) and went for a drive with two new fans. What a difference. My car routenely would have a 250 RPM drop when the fans come on. I have been using a 30 AMP circuit breaker to avoid blowing fuses for about a year now. There was negligible RPM drop with the new fans. Anybody having an RPM drop or fuse blowing should immediately purchase two fans and replace the 10 year old ones.
That is interesting to hear...... so the fans develope a higher resistance to startup with age... . That makes sense ......... it would be quite embarrassing to have this RPM drop on a new 355.... .......................... I will be buying a set just to ease the fan start up loads on the alternator....... !!!
