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  1. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Max is now saying that the FIA needs him to stay out his current term to ensure stability. He promises not to run for reelection. In less polite circles I think that this is called grasping at straws.
     
  2. mk e

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    I was very very surprise when I heard Max was planning to attend Monaco....that just didn't make a lick of sense and I couldn't believe he or anybody for that matter could be that stupid. If the autosport article is correct is makes a lot more sense, but if the second article is correct....well, I simply don't know what he was thinking.

    Just a couple more weeks.....before I get to say I told you so ;)
     
  3. kraftwerk

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    Sorry if repost , bit long winded:

    Mosley: FIA risks losing control of F1

    By Jonathan Noble Friday, May 16th 2008, 20:01 GMT


    Max Mosley has warned that the FIA could be drastically weakened, and even lose control of Formula One, if he is forced out of office at a General Assembly meeting on June 3.

    With the FIA's member clubs due to vote next month on whether they still have confidence in him following the allegations about his private life made in the News of the World, Mosley has written to the clubs' presidents warning them of the dangers of him not staying on.

    In the letter, a copy of which has been seen by autosport.com, Mosley reveals that he, on behalf of the FIA, is battling with F1 commercial rights holders Bernie Ecclestone and financial backers CVC for control of F1, and thinks it vital he sees out those discussions.

    In fact, he thinks the negotiations are so important that: "it would be irresponsible, even a breach of duty, to walk away from (them)."

    In the letter, Mosley reveals: "We are in the middle of a renegotiations of the 100 year commercial agreement between the FIA and the Formula One Commercial Rights Holder (CRH). In effect, this agreement governs Formula One.

    "The CRH originally asked us to accept changes to the agreement in order to reduce the CRH's liability to tax. These we can probably concede. But the CRH has also now asked for control over the F1 regulations and the right to sell the business to anyone - in effect to take over F1 completely. I do not believe the FIA should agree to this.

    "To do so would be to abandon core elements of the FIA's patrimony including, for example, our ability to protect the traditional grands prix. We would also be weaker financially but, even more importantly, we would put at risk the viability of the FIA as the regulatory authority of international motor sport and lose a valuable communication platform for the wider interests of the organisation."

    The revelations about the discussions over a new 100-year deal throw a fresh light on Ecclestone's stance on the Mosley affair - especially following a meeting at the Spanish Grand Prix where he was involved in discussions about whether the teams should sign a letter calling for Mosley to resign. The original 100-year commercial rights deal was agreed with Ecclestone in 2000, when he was reported to have paid around $315 million (USD) for the privilege.

    Mosley claims that his bid to defend the FIA's future would be weakened if he left his position - and opens up the possibility of a candidate being installed who actually supports those whom the FIA are currently arguing with.

    "Anyone could stand and there would be no list to stabilise the process and ensure that each candidate had the support of a real cross-section of FIA member clubs," said Mosley about what would happen if he left office. "During the two to four month election period, the complex negotiations (with the CRH)....would necessarily slow or even cease.

    "A new president would then take over with no knowledge of the background and, worse, might perhaps have been elected with the support of the very people with whom we are negotiating."

    Mosley also fears that the FIA being frozen out of aspects of F1's governance would actually damage the sport ahead of what he calls a looming financial 'crisis' - which is why he is reluctant to agree to a Concorde Agreement that gives the teams veto over rule making and does not give them enough money.

    "In my view, we should only sign a new Concorde Agreement if it reinforces the authority of the FIA and deals properly with the major financial crisis which appears imminent in F1.

    "Costs have gone out of control, income is insufficient and major manufacturers are in difficulty with their core businesses. Only with fair and realistic financial arrangements will we avoid losing more teams."

    Furthermore, Mosley revealed that he is involved in discussions for a long-term commercial agreement for the World Rally Championship, which he believes is vital for the "financial well-being of the FIA and those of its member clubs which organise international rallies."

    He concludes that those within the sport who have called for his resignation may only be doing so to further their interests in locking the FIA out of F1.

    "I think it is important to recognise that there has been a struggle for control of F1 that goes back to the original Concorde Agreement in 1981. More recently it involved the major car manufacturers threatening to launch a break-away series.

    "During my period as FIA President the economics of F1 have changed beyond all recognition. We are now dealing with a sport involving billions of dollars and interests that would like nothing better than to remove the FIA from the championship entirely.

    "I have been determined to fight for the rights and role of the FIA in F1 and it is possibly for this reason that the media have been encouraged by those who have an interest in undermining my Presidency.

    "I believe, therefore, that whatever the Extraordinary General Assembly decides, it should not reward those who have deliberately set out to destabilise the FIA at such a crucial time in its history."

    In a second part of the letter, Mosley also calls on the major mobility clubs to abandon plans to form a breakaway organisation and do more to ensure the success of the merger that they themselves originally supported."

    Mosley concludes his letter by making it clear that he fully intends to stand down in October 2009 if he is given a vote of confidence on June 3 - and his final year in office will be spent concluding the F1 and WRC negotiations that he believes are so vital for the future of the FIA.

    He claims that in that period all public representation of the FIA will be handed over to the two Deputy Presidents.

    "This will give me the time I need to progress the current negotiations to the point where proposals safeguarding the fundamental interests of the FIA can be submitted to the WMSC (World Motor Sport Council) and the General Assembly," he explains.

    "It will also give me time to pursue the legal proceedings I have started against those who have caused so much unnecessary trouble and embarrassment. Above all, it will allow a smooth and orderly transition to a new presidency satisfactory to the membership as a whole."

    Next week in Monaco, Mosley is to make his first public appearance at a Grand Prix since the scandal about his private life broke earlier this year.
     
  4. VIZSLA

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    Sounds like Max realizes that he and Bernie are no longer allies.
     
  5. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    His next - and last option; BEG
     
  6. kraftwerk

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    Yes..indeed this bit interested me :Mosley claims that his bid to defend the FIA's future would be weakened if he left his position - and opens up the possibility of a candidate being installed who actually supports those whom the FIA are currently arguing with.

    I would take my chance with that Maxy mate... Translated... they might know a thing or two about doing a good job..and make me look a fool.
     
  7. VIZSLA

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    Apres moi le deluge?
     
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    If I were Mosley I would hire a good private investigator to find and then expose the dirt and sexual indiscretions of all the hypocrites now criticizing him for his harmless sexual fantasy with ladies of the evening...
     
  9. kraftwerk

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    He will have enough time on his hand's to do it himself soon enough.
     
  10. krasnavian

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    Thank you to Louis, and a nod to Madame de Pompadour.
     
  11. Jack-the-lad

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    Yes, Max, you are absolutely indispensible to motorsport. Now, please go away.

    Jack.
     
  12. Wolfgang5150

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    Does he sound like a typical pompous-ass politican or what????? 'No one can do this job like me'...blah, blah, blah.....
    Please leave....
    Kevin
     
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    Who needs Hollywood script writers when you can have Max gate:) no novel has so many twists...and yes his plea does seem to indicate that he is all ALONE now....no more Bernie no more support no more welcome anywhere...
     
  14. VIZSLA

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    The old girl says hi.
     
  15. william

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    If only Max could do the decent thing and jump out of the balcony of his flat in Monaco. Preferably NOT during the GP, or we will have another Pace Car period!!
     
  16. VIZSLA

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    Or as they say in Turkey "may he be calif in Egypt".
     
  17. SRT Mike

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    Since you are not criticizing him and, in fact, are supporting him, does that mean you are admitting to frolicking with hookers yourself and just don't want to be a hypocrite?

    I've never paid for it, never would. I think Mosley is a scumbag and an immoral disgusting cockroach that should be flushed from the FIA like morning hangover diarrhea.
     
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    if Maggie Thatcher turns up in the middle of all this in whips and leather bodice all bets are off :D
     
  21. kraftwerk

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    LOL :D
     
  22. VIZSLA

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    An officer in the British Security Service agency MI5 has been forced to resign after admitting his wife was one of the prostitutes who took part in the orgy with FIA president Max Mosley, according to a report in the Sunday Times.

    The newspaper claims that the officer, who cannot be named for security reasons, left the service last month following the revelation that his wife was one of five prostitutes involved in the orgy at the centre of the News of the World expose.

    Amid suggestions from Mosley that he was set-up by unnamed figures, however, MI5 has strongly denied it was involved in a sting.

    "Any suggestion that the service was involved in setting up Mosley is total nonsense," a senior Whitehall official told the Sunday Times.

    The officer who was forced to resign had to leave, however, because his wife's activities could have compromised security and left him open to blackmail.

    The official added: "I cannot talk about individual cases, but we do expect high standards of behaviour from all staff at all times, both professionally and privately. In any case where a member of staff is believed to have fallen below those standards, action will be taken."

    Mosley is facing a confidence vote in his position as president at an FIA General Assembly meeting on June 3, and wrote to the presidents of the national automobile clubs last week warning them the sport's governing body could lose control of F1 if he is forced out.
     
  24. parkerfe

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    No hookers here...but we all pay for it one way or another. My point is that I suspect that most of the critics of Max likely have skeletons in their own closets...if you/they are against prostitution on moral grounds then that's fine...but are you/they on high enough moral ground to cast the first stone?
     
  25. kraftwerk

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    Surely you can see the bigger picture here...
     

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