MAX MOSLEY BUSTED BIG TIME

It's not his private life that's the issue. Do you think the possibility of him being a Nazi sympathizer has anything to do in regards to the relevance of his job? That's the issue and I don't think we should loose site of that.

 

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080519100418.shtml

 

I am no Mosley fan, but I remain unconvinced that there was a Nazi element to this. As far as I'm concerned he has been caught with his trousers down and it is this that makes his job untenable.
It sounds like the outcome of all this will be that Max stays in his job till the end of his term, but he will send deputies to any official functions.

 

+1

and I win a case of beer.

 

Hollow victory mate...

 

Yes and no: Sure he should have been fired on the spot, but I knew all along that this guy went to the Fidel Castro school of hanging on. So at least knowing he'll leave office before he dies is a relief and wasn't really an option before this scandal broke.

The next interesting question will be the one of his successor. I can only hope and pray it won't be Todt. Or we'll have made the fox guarding the hen house.

 

Yes I think you will be drinking, Mike's beer.

Max is so hard faced it's untrue, so it seem you were right.

Anyone but Todt.

 

He has not been fired and I don't think he will because ...





... nobody wants his job. Sad but true, motorsport (maybe only F1) is now lead by a bunch of pnssies with no passion. They are all scared of the corporations that sponsor them, thus motorsport comes way second to the mighty $.
Pete

 

please explain the concentration camp elements like them checking his head for lice.

 

That could just as easily be a boarding school fantasy as a concentration camp. If I was paying for a Nazi Fantasy I'd expect to see a few swastikas, goose stepping, and hear a few 'heil Hitler's. The nazi spin on this has been added by the newspaper. It has also been reported that it happened in a dungeon, when it was actually in a rather smart flat in Chelsea.
I am not defending the guy. He paid for a sado-masochistic orgy and in being caught made his position untenable. Yes, he's been set up, but the sting wouldn't have worked if he'd turned down the offer of an afternoons spanking. He's been an idiot, but I have not seen proof that he is a nazi idiot.
I think he is spending his time and energy (and the FIA's money) on disprooving the Nazi element of the story. I think it's irrelevant and it angers me that he thinks that by proving that part of the story is inaccurate he can claim a moral victory.

 

Bernie is ready to go to war with MM.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67590

 

Disproving the Nazi element is crucial to Mosley, as this will allow him to sue for slander in the UK, win damages and give him massive traction with regard to claiming it was a setup. It will also force the paper to reveal who was involved.
It's a very clever tactic on Mosley's behalf, as the Nazi element in the video clip is somewhat open to interpretation, i.e. the actions may be similar to what may have happened in Nazi camp, but they could have also taken place elsewhere. The paper made a huge tactical blunder if they called it a Nazi scene, they should have let people come to that conclusion themselves, rather than verbalise it.

Regardless of the Nazi element, Mosley can't deny the SM orgy bit, as its there for all to see.
A person like Mosely in a high profile, big responsibility job is well paid, and knows ( and by implication ) that part of the "deal" with a role like this is that his actions, even "private" ones, are subject to public scrutiny and comment. His employers also have a right to expect exemplary standards of personal conduct and integrity.

Aside from the blatant stupidity of getting caught in the act ( IMHO excuse enough to terminate him ) he displays a momentous lack of judgment in dealing with the consequences, not to mention the cheating on his wife - if he consciously deceives the closest person to him, ( wife & mother of his kids) then you can be pretty sure he would have no compunction in being dishonest to anyone else.

M

 

Standard procedure at L.A. County jail according to the documentaries I've seen.

 

Uh, oh, there is hope: If the grand Zampano has your number, you're toast in F1.

 

Nothing at all wrong with this part, nothing at all. You would be surprised at how many people do this stuff, probably some of your neighbours. Also just because your married does not mean your marriage is like most peoples, some have a different arrangement ... and it works for them.

Even for politicians. If you won't vote for somebody because they like a bit of SM, then sorry you've lost the plot. Does not mean they are bad people. People that acknowledge their sexuality are far safer than those that hide it and sometimes eventually hurting somebody . But yes in some cases they will need therapy, but not SM.
Pete

 

Regardless of your liberal opinions or not, there are still a number of people who would prefer for the Head of the FIA that regulates motor racing worldwide, not to be caught on video tape in indignified circumstances.

After all, Mosley is the guy who makes judgement calls on participants who 'bring disrepute to the sport' according to the formula, when himself proves to be an embarassment to the World Federation he is leading.

SM or not, I don't care, but the guy is an hypocrite. Mosley spent years building himself a pedestal and accumulating power to satisfy his ego. This scandal couldn't happen to I nicer person.

 

Agree.

Pete

 

I am drawn to it like a train wreck, but this thread has lost all redeeming value.

Time for it to go.

 

Shall we possess our souls in patience a while longer?

 

Yet you would be calling for his head on a platter if he had re-bodied a 250GT as a 250 SWB!!

 

Absolutely ... he has harmed an unwilling participant

Best
Pete

 

1: To those who don't like this thread: we don't like it either: we wish the sport had not been tainted and would much rather talk about racing and our beloved sport: make no mistake.
If you say this thread has lost all redeeming value you are wrong: I am sure none of us wants to keep this going much past the June 3rd verdict but we have held a little torch in the darkness (not that any of us are foolish enough to think that we are making a difference) to combat Mosley's strategy of delaying the hearing and staying out of the limelight to let the whole thing cool down and let those with short attention spans, such as you -and I don't mean to be rude in the least-, loose their focus. That is why we have kept it going and by nature there wasn't much news for the last few weeks since MM was hiding. Now there will definitely be news.

2: This weekend will see Mosley get some serious loss of face: -I will bet you a Monaco Euro (or Franc)-. I have been awaiting it with glee for weeks but it has already started: apparently one fan with a megaphone yesterday was shouting: "watch out Max is coming Max is coming: all very childish but oh so nice to see the bastard get some punishment...but who knows maybe he enjoys this kind of humiliation as much as his dungeon games...?

3: The latest from the Times:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article3981363.ece

Get your popcorn and beer or Chardonnay out: it is going to be a very entertaining weekeknd on track and off!

 

Mate,

I'm blissfully unaware of my neighbors private sexual behavior and possible eccentricities, but on the other hand, Mr Mosley's have been laid "bare", for all to see.
There is something seriously distasteful about a senior man who likes to tie up women and beat them, and be beaten himself.
While it may be safer for the public if he can act out this fantasy with paid performers ( rather than say, unwilling "participants"), it doesn't resolve the fact he feels he "needs" to do it in the first place.

With all the people who could be the FIA president, does it need to be someone with "issues" ? No.

Now, with regard to politicians, I expect impeccable standards from our elected representatives, we have a right to expect it, and wouldn't tolerate someone who feels he needs to participate in a bit of S&M to feel good about himself.

M

 

Is there a choice?

 

Yes the bull run, odds on he won't make it ....