911 vs. Ferrari Drivers

Call me crazy or paranoid, perhaps, but do 911 and F-drivers have it in for each other?

It seems the only time I don't get any respect when driving the Ferrari is when I'm passing a Porsche. Kinda makes me sad my last car was a 911...

 

They may be jealous, or ashamed that they got passed? I have noticed that many of them do drive like maniacs. Possibly the only group that could be any worse are superbikes and Mini Cooper S cars.

Having said, I have both - 993 Porsche and Testarossa. Haven't really taken the effort to notice, but my Testa came from the local RUF Autocenter, and all the Porsche guys there were pretty taken with it.

 

Depends on the 911 in question. Some are more aggressive than others.

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The number of Ferrari owners who own or have owned 911s is staggeringly high. Maybe when you pass them they just wish they were in their F car

 

When the day is done, I am a Ferrari guy to the core. But the 911 has one big advantage over any Ferrari, you can park it virtually anywhere. I'm scared to death of parking even a lowely GT4 out of sight because some idiot will have their picture taken sitting on the hood (and yes this has really happened more than once) or park their $50 POS 6" away and smash their door into my car "trying" to get out of theirs. Neither has ever been an issue w/ a 911

 

I would tell you that in all honesty, it is not the cars, but the drivers. i have found most corvette guys to be huge jerks. for every 8-9 bad apples you will find 1-2 good ones. and i guesse the biggest comfort to think about in that situation is this. while getting the dirty look (or what ever they might do) in you f-car from the guy in the 911, your still in your f-car and they are not. either way, be happy. you own a Ferrari!


just my .02,

justin

 

Eh, some do, some don't. I really don't get it. Brand loyalty is great, but I don't see the point in bashing on other cars. It doesn't mean you have to like a Corvette, as I find the design undesirable, but you do have to acknowldge the performance.

The ones that have it out for each other are the ones I try not to talk to.

 

very well said.


justin

 

Is curios but is true that there are a lot of Ferrari owners who own a Porsche. In my case my Ferrari has more or less the same age of my Porsche. The Ferrari is a 365 GT 2+2 1968 and the Porsche is a very strange model FRUA Porsche 911 2.4 s targa 1970. The Ferrari is too heavy for racing and it's a fantastic motorway tourer and the Porsche is the fantastic Rallye car but it's horrible and very uncomfortable to drive it in a motorway... however this is unusual, because the majority of Ferrari are more near of a racing car than Porsche models, these are more near of a daily car.

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Don't make the assumption that any 911 owner is a car enthusiast. They're likely NOT, just the same way many Ferrari owners are not.

Many of them like the class of the 911, or the sporting appearance, and that's it. Though the 911 is a sports car, it's also a perfectly good luxury car which attracts two completely different types of buyers.

 

Yes, but you need to separate the 911 Carrera owners and the 911 GT2/GT3/RS crowd. No doubt someone just looking for a little shine under the Porsche brand would never get a GT2 with no comfort, luxury or back seats.

 

Its not 911 drivers...or vette drivers...or ferrari drivers.

Its the majority of ALL high end sports car owners. Most high end sports car owners I run into are snobs of some sort and very 'high school' when it comes to other owners.

A great car is a great car regardless of the cost and unless the driver built the car with his own hands, 'buying' performance is nothing to brag about...anyone can do it if they have the money..

Luckily I have met several cool down to earth high end sports car owners as well...unfortunately they are in the minority

 

That's a great point. I guess I overlooked the fact that 911 and Ferrari's owners are not 100% in the same category. The Ferrari is an exotic sports car where as the 911 can be considered a luxury sports car. After all, it's widely considered a daily driver and on a side note, how many women F-drivers do you see compared to female 911 drivers? Not trying to stir up anything just working off the assumption that most car enthusiast are men. Personally, I think it's hot when I see a woman driving any type of sports car.

 

you notice porsches? I don't even notice them, let alone who is driving them. I pass about 50 a day.

 

This is exactly opposite of my personal experience. Perhaps its just Californians ?

 

I concur. The guys I admire are the ones who buy what they like, and appreciate others' sports cars, rather than buying their way to the top of this year's performance ladder and going into snob mode.

BTW, actually got a friendly wave from a C6 Corvette driver last week when we were both driving a fast stretch of road here - not racing for blood, just revving it up a bit. I'm sure he knew the 328 is old, but just thought it was cool to see one on the road.

I notice the well-kept older ones. I'm looking for a pre-74 911 S as I type this, and the 993 (sold my '96 cab in '04) is still a looker, IMO. I love my 328, but I love the early Porsches as well.

 

It is a bit different out here. Not always better.

 

As Jon said...Its different out here.

This is the land of posing, superficiality and insecurity. The majority of people I meet that own newer cars dont know anything about them past their badge and price point. I ran into a guy driving a black F430 Spider and asked him if he was in line for a Scud. He thought I insulted him...had no idea what a Scud was.

The ones driving older Ferraris,Porsches,muscle cars, etc...they're usually the cool guys. I just dont run into many of them.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the one time I was at a valet and a guy just pulled in with a F430 and he loudly pointed out to his date that my 355 was an 'old' ferrari. IMHO anyone that doesnt respect the 355 shouldnt be driving a ferrari. But thats L.A.

 

I think the new California will change all this.

 

There is a third breed that hasn't been mentioned. There are those that buy the cars for the bragging rights. "My GT2 will do 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and has 530 HP. It will kick your Gallardo's ass." They may never reach the performance potential but like to speak about it anyways.


If you're buying a GT2 or GT3, you probably have a multitude of cars and can survive the occasional discomfort for the bragging rights.



This is all interesting speculation.

 

Honestly, I just love anything that's over the top. Power to Weight ratio, cosmetically right, loud, well crafted, unique, new, old, German, British, Japanese. Pretty much any car or motorcycle or monster truck that looks like someone woke up and really cares about looking or acting like or being an enthusiast.

The other day I was completely AWE STRUCK by a baby blue 1981 Honda Accord Hatchback sitting in the parking lot of a grocery store. It looked like it had 35,000 miles on it, the owner had taken the time to detail the car and was very proud of it- and absolutely rightfully so. This thing was CHERRY and had a VERY proud owner. There you go- a boring, blue Honda that in my opinion had a driver who is just as cool as any Exotic or collectible driver I've ever met.

 

I hesitate to generalize, but I suspect that mature 911 owners (like me) share the same passion for cars that mature Ferrari owners possess, and I think this creates a sense of common interest and a common bond for the types of cars that hasten us through life in an enjoyable and rewarding fashion.

At my age, I have nothing to prove, gain nothing from being jealous about what someone else owns, and I simply enjoy all cars that push the envelope of vehicle dynamics or occupy a special place in the history of the automobile.

If I ever pass any of you, it won't be to "challenge you;" it will more likely be to get a better and more complete view of your car.

There are immature showoffs driving every brand of car, and there are owners who arrogantly "strut their stuff" as if they're more special than lesser car owners. Some car owners choose to build a closed fraternity that surrounds a particular marque, and no one else is welcome. This is their freedom of choice. This is life. I deal with it. I accept it.

 

good post Joe

 

Plus1, Excellent post

 

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