Nice 92 Mondial cabrio with Valeo on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180251963798

If anyone knows this car please advise on story. I believe the reserve is only around $30,000 which tends to leave something on the table. Or am I just too suspicious?

 

That is priced to sell.

 

Other than the painted bottom rockers which are not factory, this looks like a nice car for the price.

 

I hope someone from FerrariChat is the lucky winning bidder and keeps us apprised of the experience.

 

I've been around Ferraris for quite a while, even owned one since 2002, but this is the first time I ever heard of this. Evidently, the gated shifter looks like the standard Ferrari 5-speed of the day; the only difference being that you don't have a clutch pedal.

Am I right? Why have I not heard of this?

Was it a very rare feature that preceeded F1 paddle shifting?

Does it make a Mondial more valuable, or are the owners ashamed to admit that they don't have a real stick shift?

 

"By 1993, one particularly interesting option was being offered, Ferrari's Valeo transmission featuring a manually-operated clutchless gearchange. Very few Mondial t's were equipped with the Valeo system and although it worked extremely well, it was quickly forgotten about with the advent of F1-style transmissions in 1997."

Everyone on F-Chat that has a Valeo seems far from ashamed about having it. Shame, is that like ignorance?

 

Yeah, something like that. Ashamed that I never heard of it before. . .

 

Wow, it sounds like a steal!

 

Imagine that.

 

The Valeos have a warning sticker on the steering wheel warning against starting the car in gear. This ebay car has the sticker removed. I saw it in a red w/tan Valeo Mondial that just sold in Dallas. (To a buyer in Italy)

 

Okay, so you had to start it in neutral, with your foot on the brake, then ease it into first like an automatic transmission car?

 

Here's the deal...

Rachel has been with me for just under four years now and I can say without any reservation whatsoever, the Valeo equipped Mondial is a complete mind blower in terms of ease of driving and speed of gear change control. The Valoe system throws the clutch faster than I could ever throw a shift (100 ms) and, like a regular tranny (which it is), she doesn't require a sequencial shift pattern----------do a one/three----do a five/four/two--------whatever you wish. And, I even have more room in the footwell for my footsies

I only hope that one day when I go to a 355 F1 system, I have the same reliability and performance that I'm enjoying presently with my Valeo Mondial.

Cheers, Hank

 

The reserve was a mere $29,000.00 This had to be the best deal on the planet. Alternatively there might be some serious sorting in store. I wish I lived closer to Phoenix so I could touch and feel. Anybody live there in Phoenix or close by?

 

What! Sell Rachel? Tell me I didn't hear that!!!
Dave

 

I suspect the same... If you recall the black t we conferred about; it's listed for $26,500. Lately really nice t Cabs are in the $50k+ range (asking price).

Plus, rare, mint and well maintained Ferraris don't get custom painted. IMHO

 

It did not pass 23500 on the relist and the seller even dropped the reserve down from 29000. Compare that to this pristine 93 Cabrio 5 speed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320272723687

 

1992 t Cab, 14,000 miles "Buy it now" $76,200.

Would be interesting to see where this one goes. I'd deduct at least $30K for the additional Ferrari stickers and emblems, not to forget the "butt print" on the front valance

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Yes, I saw this waaay too optomistic. More like in the high 50's.

 

I was wondering if Rachel has the same painted bottom/spoiler as the one above.

BTW: do YOU know how many Valeos were produced: can't seem to find any data on totals other than the registry

 

Don't feel ashamed. Here's another rather rare tidbit. There is a one-off Valeo F40 bouncing around, that was specially build for a well known Ferrarista via Enzo's help becuase that guy was on in age.

IF I can get the documentation, I'll link it, but it exists.

 

How can you see the butt print in those photos? Eagle eyes Wade?

A writer of Ferrari and Porsche books I contacted has agreed to seek the official Valeo count for me (and split between coupes and Cabrios and RHD and LHD). I will post when I hear back. He thought it would take awhile as Ferrari tends to be very secretive with a lot of information, even pedestrian things like how "many of x were produced with y option."

 

LOL

It's the 4th Mondial I've seen this year (2 in person) with a depressed front end. I don't it's built to withstand the rigors of 100 pound Hotties...

 

That is one set of number I would truly like to see. As for the Valeo's adding value: YES. They will be quite the Mondial T cabriolet to own, although I still like messing with my left foot work.

Drove many a VW/Porsche with that tiptronic style.....Not a big fan of it, but in a special Ferrari I would say OK.