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MOSLEY PLOT THICKENS: A Set-Up??

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  1. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

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    (Now who would so angry at Mosley as to go to this extreme? Is Ron Dennis capable of such an act? Or could it be Mercedes' Norbert H. for the embarrassment to MB not to mention the price tag of Stephneygate? Possibly Toyota as they were one of the first to condemn Mosley publically?. This story isn't over yet!)


    Max Mosley was warned by Bernie Ecclestone that people had been hired to discredit him two months before his private life was exposed, it was claimed today.

    A report in The Times newspaper dismisses recent suggestions that Ecclestone could have been part of a conspiracy to bring down the FIA president by suggesting he had warned Mosley that he was being targeted.

    Dean Attew, an intelligence consultant who formerly worked for Ecclestone and also advised Mosley, revealed that he was contacted early this year by people who wanted Mosley removed from office.

    "I received a call from a friend in January this year," Attew told The Times. "We had a meeting and I was told there was an open budget to effectively go out and source material that would bring Max to his knees, remove him from office, and discredit him publicly.

    "The person contacted me because they knew of my relationship with Bernie, but they didn't know of my relationship with Max. The reason they contacted me was to find out whether I had any loyalty to Max, and whether I knew anything of value.

    "I asked 'are you after Max, the FIA, or Bernie?' They came back a little while later and said they weren't going to pursue it for the time being."

    Attew informed Ecclestone of the conversation, who then warned Mosley of the plot.

    "I sat down with Bernie and told him what I'd heard," said Attew. "Bernie then told Max, I know this because Max later confirmed it to me. I assumed the warning would be taken seriously.

    "It was clear that Max disregarded the advice and failed to realise his vulnerability. The issue for me was his total disregard for genuine advice from individuals that he knew had his best interests at heart

    "I asked Bernie if there was anything anyone was going to find out about Max and he said 'you're not going to find anything because there's nothing there, he's Mr Boring in that sense'. Mosley had kept this a good secret."

    Attew believes Mosley should have revealed that Ecclestone tried to warn him to defuse speculation that he was linked to the expose.

    "I hear people suggesting Bernie was behind this, but that's ridiculous," he added. "From the very first indication, Bernie and I, with Max's knowledge, have tried to find out who was the source. When we saw what was in the News of the World, Bernie was as flabbergasted as I was."
     
  2. Senna1994

    Senna1994 F1 World Champ

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    Well Ron, Attew was right about one thing, it brought Max down on his knees. The Putz should still be gone, anywhere else this ****** would have resigned the next day.
     
  3. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    No question a set-up. Just a matter of which of his enemies were looking to ruin him and set the scheme in motion. The word was probably out he was into kinky stuff so it was just a matter of laying the trap.
     
  4. Drive550PFB

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    So . . . Someone MADE Max call the madam at the brothel. Someone MADE Max drive to the Brothel. Someone MADE Max pick 5 women and tell them how to dress. Someone MADE Max tell them how to act. Someone MADE Max pay them. Someone MADE Max have tea afterward. OK, sure, I believe that.

    At least the dominatrix MADE Max get on his knees and bark like the dog that he is.
     
  5. GrndLkNatv

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    Who doesn't want max out of there. His going green stuff is going to be the death of F1 and all the manufacturers know it. I am quite sure once he is gone, which will happen, there won't be a tear in the room...
     
  6. waltk88

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    Maybe Bernie's behind the set up. He warned Max just to avert suspicion. Ha.
     
  7. jtremlett

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    It isn't a set up exactly because Mosleyscum was up to all this stuff.

    As to who was out to get him, I rather suspect the answer is that plenty of people would love to see him gone - including me. However, I have always been of the opinion that this all came about because he threatened to sue the Times (a Rupert Murdoch newspaper) in relation to comments made by Martin Brundle in his Times column about how the FIA dealt with the Mclaren spy saga. I don't believe it was co-incidence that the "revelations" appeared in the News of the World (another Murdoch-owned title). In other words, it is my opinion that the Murdoch empire sought to bring him down for being arrogant enough to threaten them.

    Jonathan
     
  8. Gilles27

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    So what if it was "set up". There isn't one famous person out there who doesn't have someone hoping to see them fall. I keep expecting to see Max Inc. release some elaborate story about how the entire video was part of a charade and taken out of context...In my highly-esteemed court of public opinion, the matter of a setup is irrelevant. He did what he did. He wouldn't step down after years of questionable decisions affecting F1, maybe "they" felt this was the only way to humanely get rid of him.
     
  9. VIZSLA

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    Not so much a set up as a sting. As to who paid for the op, it sounds like an individual (as opposed to a corporate entity where liabilty to shareholders would be an issue) with very deep pockets and a personal grudge. Don't see R.D in this mold. Not Bernie's style either, he's all about the money. More apt to be one of Wm. Randolph Hearst's spiritual heirs (no names please;) )
     
  10. Gilles27

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    I agree, and I'm sure whoever is behind it does indeed have deep pockets. But this was probably put together relatively cheaply. Hookers and a video camera. Whoever made it all happen is the one that made a couple bucks.
     
  11. 355

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    For sure, I cant believe that they are putting up with this clown. They should have said either your out or the races are off period. Wether he was set up or not he still took the bait. :)
     
  12. 355

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    Well you know what happens when the blood rushes to the head with no brain. ;)
     
  13. Spotcheckbilly

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    What about his wife? Maybe she came to realize what scum she's been married to.
    No less likely than any of the other names that have been mentioned.

    Scott
     
  14. ryalex

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    They've been estranged for years...
     
  15. ryalex

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    Yeah, you would THINK that after getting such a warning that people are after you investigating and trying to ruin you, that you would cancel the Nazi orgies. At least for, oh, two or three months.
     
  16. VIZSLA

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    You lose you H**d on?
     
  17. tifosi12

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    Actually none of this is news: It was reported months ago that Nazi Max has been warned about something like this. He knew he had people following his every move (quite literally) and still let Little Max do the thinking.

    He thought all along that he was bullet proof and guess what: He was right.
     
  18. maxorido

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    Good point.

    Where's Ted? :)
     
  19. moretti

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    in the counting house, counting out the money ......
     
  20. J. Salmon

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    I thought it was the media mogul he pissed off? What's his name? I thought this was well known. Of course he was setup, it's not like his gardener stole the tapes. As has been said, no one made him do it, they just exposed his private life. When your in a position like he is, you have to watch what you do. In case everyone else gets to watch what you do!
     
  21. SRT Mike

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    A lot of terminology ambiguity I guess... to me, he wasn't "set up". To me, a set up is coaxing someone into a pre-planned situation that they would otherwise not be in, then using the results of them falling for your ruse against them. Like a hooker actively soliciting a john.

    I find it funny that some of the less credible and more overtly Mosley bandwagoning sites like Pitpass go so far as to use the word "entrapment". LOL. Perhaps they ought to look up the definition before they toss around words they do not understand in their quest to cover for a morally and ethically bankrupt man!

    Anyway, IMO Mosley was not set up, nor was he entrapped. What he was, is exposed. Nothing was conceived that would not othewise have happened... it's not like Max had a mistress who, one time, suggested a Nazi 5-some. This was behaviour he was actively engaging in on a routine basis. It was there all along and occurring repeatedly. The only difference between now and 6 months ago is that we did not know about it back then.

    They say if you repeat something enough, some folks will beleive it to be true. I guess is the Mosley apologists (not saying folks on here, I mean in the press - like Pitpass) hope that if they keep saying enough that Max was set up and victim to a trap, that people may start to believe it and feel bad for the senile old bastard.
     
  22. kraftwerk

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    Yet again on the Money with that, Mike

    I felt I might try to cut him some slack with regard's to the nazi element, as in they made sure it was this theme, for maximum effect.

    But there again the fact he was barking order's and counting in german, defeats that argument.
     
  23. Senna1994

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    +1000 Excellent Post.
     
  24. parkerfe

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    WHAT IF: Mosley had scheduled his weekly visit with his hookers which had never included any Nazi role playing whatsoever. However, to set him up, someone from Ferrari or some other enemy paid off the hookers and had them ready with cameras and wearing Nazi outfits when Mosley showed up. Of course Mosley would go along with the fantasy...what hooker customer wouldn't cooperate with several attractive busty hookers ready to give him the works albeit in Nazi prison stripes...then after the story broke, what could Mosley say..."...while I always have my weekly hookers, we have never worn Nazi outfits before...it was the hookers idea..."? That would have never been believed either...I suspect something was done by someone who had it in for Mosley to cause this entire scandal...but, I guess Mosley has won in the long run...he kept his job and will be able to leave when he was already planning to do so...his champion of safety will be sorely missed...
     
  25. kraftwerk

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    I regard this post with an indifference closely bordering on aversion.
    But of course you are joking, right..!! ;)
     

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