Alain Prost says "No way GTR does 7:29"

...... somehow FACTS don't register with people........

Scud - 1:15,1s
GT2 ~ 1:15,2s (allegedly "very close")
LP560 - 1:15,6s
GT-R ~ 1:19s


So the GT2 is faster than the GT-R, but we already knew that. Scud faster than the GT2 is not so surprising either. Gallardo SL is faster than the GTR in Japan test already so the LP560 beating the GT-R is right on as well...... So what's that got to do with the fact GTR did 7:29 on Nur? Maybe the testdriver drobe that route 5000 times and risked his life in the process but what's done is done, they even posted the video on Youtube..... Some people~

 

The fanboys will have an excuse anyway....


I can hear it now "Alain Prost don't know jack!"

 

Not all tracks are going to have the same outcome. I would think even nthfinity would realize that.

The GT-R is already labeled a GT3/Turbo/Gallardo SL/Z06 competitor, and now that it is beaten by cars that are models above its competitors, you act like that's a surprise. You guys should have already known from the beginning the GT-R wasn't meant to be compared to these cars besides perhaps the Gallardo.

 

Proof?

 

You people are pathetic, you must spend all your time finding a way to knock on the GTR. There have been numerous tests showing the GTR as being very quick, even videos. As soon as something negative comes about, you jump all over it as quickly as possible. If it had a V8 in it and a GM or Ford badge you would be praising it, pathetic. Hopefully as soon as Americans get ahold of it officially we can truely see what its capable of, bunch of whiny GTR haters

 

Looking forward to some top gear times!

 

HAHAHAHA, but we're the whiny ones?

 

Do you really believe that a car only producing 450hp(Maybe less) weighs more than a Z06 is gonna dominate the competetion?. You should have known these lap times where bullsh!t from day one.

Personally I don't care what the magazines or Top Gear says. You wanna findout go and test drive the vehicle and findout for yourself what it can and can't do.

 

Very quick does not necessarily equate to 7:29.

 

Psst. Just for the record, Motor Trend dyno'd one and it put down 475hp...to the wheels. They estimated 550hp at the crank.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/supercars/nissan-gt-r-dyno-475hp-at-the-hubs/

 

You mean the ringer Nissan gave them? Kinda like Toyota did with the last generation Supra when it first came out? Funny C&D that usually gets the fastest times just, got 0-60 in 4.1 in the new issue for the GTR.

 

Waah waaah waaah blah blah blah.

 

Given a 20% drivetrain loss for an AWD car thats what 580+ horsepower

 

Key word: usually. Others have hit faster, including Road & Track.

 

The videos don't prove that the car isn't stock! A stock looking car does not mean it is stock. The programing of the ECU is HUGE on a turbo car. The ecu coulb allow the wastegates to allow more boost than a regular production car. The car could run leaner, timing could be optimised for those specific conditions... think of it almost as qualifying trim. Nissan gets the car back, they don't have to worry about warrantying the cars, they just need to stay together for a short amount of time. Then there is the mechanical differences, ported heads, intake manifold, differnt turbos, maybe the same turbos with differnt wheels... the list is just huge!


I do get your point about what i refer to as "nutswingers" and I am as tired of them as you are.

In my honest opinion, my first inclination is that the mags/first cars are ringers. Just my point of view. Nissan HAS done it in the past, they are known for it on previous skylines years and years ago.

I am not an import hater what-so-ever either... one of my friends has a Civic Si (2000) that ran 9.98 a@155 in the 1/4 on a completely stock looking car from the outside. Another one of our friends has a 900AWHP evo, multiples of friends/people I know have 1000-1500hp supra etc... I AM NOT SAYING THIS TO BRAG. I AM ONLY TRYING TO VALIDATE THAT I AM NOT BIASED AGAINST IMPORTS OR NISSANS or whatever.

 

Some good points, but they will still have excuses lol....

 

Iam still gonna rise the BS flag on this one.

 

GTR is a great techno wonder yet I believe Nissan was running ringers early on for favorable press ..

JMO

 

Is Nissan lying about GT-R horsepower? Pretty much.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/30/is-nissan-lying-about-gt-r-horsepower-pretty-much/

 

I'll bet Nissan could come out and admit, "Yes, you're all actually buying a 550Bhp car instead of 480Bhp car", and folks would still complain despite that being an even better deal for the money.

 

sigh......here we go again

Guess Nissan is delivering "ringers" to customer as well. Edmunds couldn't get a hold of a press fleet car, so they got a customer car and promptly laid down the "fastest acceleration they've seen"

Customer Car, not a Press Car
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=124017
0-60 in 3.3 Seconds
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As for the `Ring times, 7:29 is only 3% faster than the Z06's best effort, and at Buttonwillow the GT-R was 4.5% faster than the Z06.
http://images.streetfire.net/photos/0001/23/71/1143217.jpg

Looks consistent to me with the Nur times....but then someone is going to point out that Steve has an association with Nissan and therefore must have some sort of bias, which I guess will mean he must have driven the other cars slower.... but then that doesn't bear out since his Buttonwillow Z06 time is faster than Car and Driver's, so he must ahve driven the GT-R somehow faster. ......which brings me back to my original point which was "sigh......here we go again"

 

There was a guy at Orlando Speed World last night for test and tune with a GTR. He also had a 10 second Chevelle, so I assume he knows how to drive. Not that the GTR takes any skill.

Best he could muster was a 12.4 @ 114.5. He wasn't to happy....
My buddy in a basically stock LS3 Vette beat him on that pass.

 

Hmm, let's see who do I believe? Alain Prost, a 4 time WDC with no reason to lie or Nissan that's trying to sell an expensive car within a crappy economy? If the Professor doesn't buy that a stock GTR can do a 7:29 at the 'ring, I'd see no reason to even debate it. He'd know better than any of us. All car companies have been full of s*** for years when it comes to thier car's performance numbers.