IRL is unwatchable! Why no local yellows?

i was actually surprised at the lack of safety car in the silverstone race.

 

That's what happens when the series pays homage to NASCAR, they have the same problem and have ruined the only 2 watchable races because of it.

The wankers in IRL have no clue on restarts because of the "officials" always butting in, just let them go with the leaders pace, fast or slow, that's his prerogative as the leader.

 

I personally didn't think it was needed. Unless the car is on the track, or within X amount of feet, then it isnt needed IMO.

 

in many cases, i agree. (i was saying, i think they overdo the safety car.)

but @ silverstone i think they underdid it. maybe because ferrari had already "lost" and being home turf they didn't want to spoil hami's run. anyway when a car is in a high speed runoff area it's dangerous for workers to be there even with local yellow. they were hauling a car out with the crane in the twisty part, very near the track, when the track was wet! wish i still had it on tivo so i could go back and say what lap it was, but it looked might dangerous.

 

I don't know Robert, but I see your question went OT real quick here. Could the IRL have been concerned about safety with just local yellows considering the talent at the back of the field.

 

I mentioned something along the same lines in the race results thread.

Watkins Glen does not have huge run off areas. The track workers would be exposed to danger. No way to leave a car abandoned on the track (that raises a whole different discussion thread in my book). I say protect the track workers first. Not their fault the drivers were being stupid. e.g Danica vs pit wall, Dixon vs Briscoe, Milka vs AJ4, Viso vs Meira. None of those should have happened. All boneheaded moves. Odd that we had so many in a single race.



I need to check on tickets for IRL at Mid-Ohio. Geeze, it'd be a shame to miss that one. Better talk to the boss, but she's a bigger IRL junkie than I am. What can you say about a woman that buys a race scanner for an anniversary present?

 

From what I've seen of "local yellows", that seems to mean "no passing in this zone". The cars are still going at race pace, or very near to it, and the track workers simply can't be asked to risk their lives moving disabled cars and cleaning up the track while the racers are still at it. Hell, if they can't follow the pace car under yellow without wrecking, how can you expect them to avoid workers standing on the track?

I can understand the "full course yellow", but why does it take so flippin' long to haul away a car that has just spun out?

 

+1

 

The "no local yellows" is a Watkins Glen call, not the IRL series. When we run there with the SCCA, we call it "The home of yellow flag racing" .

 

and there it is...local knowledge that answers all.

I guess "someone" owes IRL an apology. LOL!

 

The Glen has always seemed to me to be terrible about removing cars.

But, I'd rather blame the Danica Racing League. Watched a bit of the race. Nice feeder series for Sprint Cup, or GP2? How's old SeaBass doing in the big show?

 

On an oval it takes IRL any number of laps to move a spun out car, heaven forbid any of that Nascar cheese "De-Brie", they do just as bad on real tracks, the only gimme I will concede is for street courses are narrow and as Mario proved, drivers will stilll screw up under yellow.

All for the good of the show(sic) that's the bottom line.

FWIW as many spectators attend the Zippo vintage event as this last race, says something?

 

Yeah, they got a little trigger-happy with the yellows. They should really investigate implementing local yellows, such as in F1.

 

On an oval, the debris field can be large. If I am a driver doing 220MPH or a car owner shelling out the $$$ for the car, I would appreciate a few extra minutes to be sure anything that could cut a tire and send the car into the wall a worthy investment. Don't forget safety for the sake of the show.


FWIW...sorry, I'm 'clueless to the meaning'. Heck, I don't text. Help?

 

and there it is people...a discussion about full course yellow vs local yellow and some ovary hating person has to bring up Danica. Good grief.

 

Yeah - it says that people like me weren't interested in the IRL before the "merger" (sellout), why would we be interested after?

 

"and there it is people...a discussion about full course yellow vs local yellow and some ovary hating person has to bring up Danica. Good grief."


The Danica Racing League made Danica the star of their show long ago, when she was basically all they had. I'm just enjoying the GoDaddyness of it all. Hey, IndaniCar won the war of the series, my hat's off to Mr. George. It's a pretty neato little spec series he's got there. When they start a Masters division, some of us should sign up.

As for full course v local yellows, based on a fair amount of experience racing at the Glen, they are incredibly slow to remove cars; in fact, they seem like arrogant pricks, making life difficult for everyone who visits. Fo example, many of us will be in the line at the Glen at around 530, or earlier, this Friday morning, because they are ... idiots.


Bingo:

"Yeah - it says that people like me weren't interested in the IRL before the "merger" (sellout), why would we be interested after?"

 

I've heard the Glen operates a little different than other tracks but I'm going to guess a Watkins Glen official doesn't call for the FCY but that there's a paid-by-the-IRL Operating Steward(s) that makes that call.

I thought Silverstone was handled fine, but then I and my kind would rather bust our butts under a 60 second local yellow than see a SC. Unless they've got the new speed limiter system worked out (which I think is overkill) cars aren't much slower under a FCY than they are under a local and unless they're nicely bunched up (which they rarely are) then all the SC does is burn yellow flagger calories and test pitlane attentiveness.

I'm not an IRL fan so after seeing the thread title my first thought was that their drivers don't know how to deal with local yellows...