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$20,000 damaged 348 on EBAY

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  1. WJHMH

    WJHMH Two Time F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

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    I have no affiliation with this sale. I'm sure some of you have seen this, the car is about 150 miles east from where I live. The engine block could be a complete loss & not sure about the suspension, my guess it took some sort of off road excursion. Who ever buys it could part it out. Not sure about if it's worth saving unless someone wants to build a track car, it could cost another 20 grand plus just to get it drivable again.

    ZFFFG36A8L0087188
    White / tan TS
    18,338 miles

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    Those fog lights alone are worth a ton of $$$$$$!!!
     
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    As long as its not damaged. I thought about making a move on this car but I currently don't have the room for it & I'm 10 grand short. This Ebayer might have bought it as a fixer upper then found out what is was really going to cost to fix.
     
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    Chevy small block + G6 six speed + 348 subframe == hot rod
     
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    Though the thought did cross my mind, Enzo would be spinning in his grave at 12,000 RPM.
     
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    He wants $20K for it---Offer him $15K-----Sell it off as parts and anyone who knows a little bit about marketing strategy should come out ahead...Ebay will become your friend!!:D
     
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    Several years ago, there was a guy who offered a conversion kit for sale that would bolt a SBC to the transax of the 348....somewhere out of GA, IIRC.
     
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    The vehicle sustained major damage due to fire. In most states, fire damage titles are issued when the cost of repairing the vehicle for safe operation exceeds its fair market value. Exceeds Mechanical Limits
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    An insurance or fleet company declares a vehicle a total loss when a claim exceeds ~ 75% of its pre-damage value or if the vehicle is stolen and not recovered. This damage threshold varies by company. These companies typically take possession and obtain the title. Not all total loss vehicles result in a DMV-reported branded title, like a Salvage or Junk title. See the glossary for more information. Accident Indicator
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    1990 FERRARI 348 TS
    ZFFFG36A8L0087188
    CONVERTIBLE
    3.4L V8 FI SOHC / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
    Standard Equipment | Safety Options

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    This vehicle DOES NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee
    The last reported odometer reading was 17,672








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    Salvage | Junk | Rebuilt
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    Problem Found
    Fire/Flood | Hail Damage | Buyback/Lemon No Problem
    Not Actual Mileage | Exceeds Mechanical Limits No Problem
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    No total loss reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported

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    No structural / frame damage reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported

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    No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported

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    No indication of an odometer rollback. No Issues Indicated

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    See State DMV-reported Title Problems above. Alert!
    Problem Found

    Manufacturer Recall Check
    Check with an authorized Ferrari dealer for any open recalls. No Recalls Reported

    Basic Warranty Check
    Original manufacturer warranty likely voided by manufacturer after vehicle was severely damaged. Warranty Voided




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    1990 FERRARI 348 TS
    Body Style: Convertible
    Engine Type: 3.4L V8 FI SOHC
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    A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 5 billion vehicle history events and found 20 record(s) for this 1990 FERRARI 348 TS (ZFFFG36A8L0087188).

    Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
    02/07/1991 Florida
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    Title #61094886 Title issued or updated
    First owner reported

    06/04/1991 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Passed emissions inspection

    07/21/1992 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Passed emissions inspection

    10/12/1993 4,885 Auto Auction
    Southeast Region Vehicle sold

    06/08/1994 4,908 Michigan
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Grosse Pointe, MI
    Title #299E1590136 Title or registration issued
    New owner reported

    12/10/1996 Michigan
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Walled Lake, MI
    Title #299G3450234 Title or registration issued

    12/16/1996 Michigan
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Walled Lake, MI
    Title #299G3510034 Title or registration issued

    12/09/1998 Michigan
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Walled Lake, MI
    Title #142J3430239 Title or registration issued

    12/18/1998 Michigan
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Canton, MI
    Title #142J3520548 Title or registration issued
    New owner reported

    02/18/2000 13,000 Florida
    Inspection Station
    West Palm Beach, FL Passed emissions inspection

    04/05/2000 Florida
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    West Palm Beach, FL
    Title #0080736154 Title issued or updated
    Exempt from odometer reporting

    12/11/2000 Florida
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    West Palm Beach, FL
    Title #0080736154 Title issued or updated
    Exempt from odometer reporting

    12/28/2001 Florida
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    West Palm Beach, FL Registration updated when owner moved
    the vehicle to a new location

    06/01/2004 16,040 Texas
    Inspection Station
    La Marque, TX Failed emissions or safety inspection

    06/15/2004 16,068 Texas
    Inspection Station
    La Marque, TX Failed emissions or safety inspection

    06/21/2004 16,160 Texas
    Inspection Station
    Houston, TX Passed emissions or safety inspection

    07/13/2004 Texas
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Santa Fe, TX
    Title #08432638166093615 Title issued or updated
    New owner reported
    Loan or lien reported

    07/05/2005 17,672 Texas
    Inspection Station
    Texas City, TX Passed emissions or safety inspection

    09/26/2005 CARFAX
    This vehicle was registered in a county declared a flood disaster area by the Federal Emergency Management Agency ( FEMA ).


    Hmmm...while most of these vehicles may not have been damaged, you should check for flood and/or other damage during your pre-purchase inspection.

    05/16/2008 Texas
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Houston, TX
    Title #29722039582090954 New owner reported
    SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED



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    Body and interior seem at least decent, would almost feel bad parting it out. At the right price however, hot rod may not be a "bad" idea. People have spent as much building fake and ugly exotics. Power and reliability would be way up, with running and maintenance costs way down. An LS1 or LS2 could be had for cheap and even lower the weight! Though having a chevy behind the seats may just feel wrong also, lol.
     
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    I considered purchasing this car and spoke with the owner. It was severely damaged in the rear and the quarter panels and bumper have been repaired. The real damage is to the motor which is off it's hinges and pushed into the fuel tank. I suspect the gearbox is toast too after my conversation with the bloke.
     
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    HE HE HE...:D:D:D
     
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    Looks like the auction ended early for some reason, I hope someone here picked it up & will let us know what going to happen to it.
     
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