RON DENNIS: McLaren Has Two #1 Drivers (Politely, Bug Off Jackie)

All the team's have a number 1 and number 2 driver, if they didn't then the two drivers on the team would be getting paid the same amount of money.

 

not to mention that the season is half over and heikki has absolutely no chance of winning the WDC, so he might as well drive to support lewis. i'll never understand why teams wouldn't want team orders and prioritized drivers.

 

Quick reminder for RD: German GP, hairpin, pitradio: move over Heikki!

 

+1000

 

We don't know that happened, RD says not, do you have some evidence to the contrary?

Last year was absolute proof that McLaren let their drivers race, if that were not the case would a rookie have been beating the world champion? The drivers may not be paid the same but that's got nothing to do with whether they have the same opportunity on the track - how much more than LH was FA paid last year? If it came to the crunch and one of the drivers was clearly out of the running for the championship I don't doubt that team orders would be applied, but that's a different scenario.

 

First of all, Jackie Stewart and all these other ex-f1 drivers need to shut their mouths instead of making so many, mostly stupid comments. Second of all, Ron Dennis must think F1 fans are idiots by saying that both his drivers THIS YEAR are equally number one.

 

What RD said was -

"We have a long history of giving our drivers equal treatment and opportunity, and that isn't about to change," he added. "Not every armchair critic will agree with that policy but it's the way we go motor racing. And, to be frank, it's the way everyone goes motor racing these days."

- your post adds absolutely nothing constructive to the discussion. Let's hear why you believe his statement isn't true.

 

RD himself said that right after the race Heikki was not happy at all with the move but later realised that it was the only thing to do (after some talking to). If there really were no team orders why would Heikki move over so quickly (Hamilton was almost caught by surprise) right after RD went on the radio? Why would Heikki be so pi$$ed off? RD tells the FIA what they want to hear: no team orders. Simply because it's forbidden. He will never admit publicly that he ordered Heikki to move over so your request for evidence I can't answer.

 

Another ignorant LH fan.

yupyup, LH was just so so so so fast that HK couldn't even give it a shot at blocking the inside line and had to almost park the car, put on some hizard lights (if there were some) to let LH go by...

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Pathetic ignorance.

RD says this, RD says that.... yea RD said he knew nothing about spygate also, sure I believed him... NOT!

 

Man, You're out of your mind if you think HK didn't move over and let Hamilton pass -- whether he was told to or not. He put of less of a fight then Massa and Piquet Jr.

 

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I'm not saying that HK shouldn't help LH win the title, he should once he is mathematically unable to win it. I just don't think one driver could be so much slower than their teammate so far.

 

You need to read posts more carefully. Did I say I thought HK didn't move over and let LH pass? I don't think so.

 

Its was very clear last year that LH was, and still is, the apple of RD's dubious eye. It would have made him extremely happy to have a rookie beat out FA for the WDC, and to that end, I believe that he fully supported, and still does, one driver over another...

 

I think the problem is, the press corps is over-populated and under-fed. They're always looking for a story--the more controversial the better, right?--and as a result sticking their microphones under the noses of anyone who was/is someone from the sport. Anything that spills from their mouths is fodder for print. Sir Jackie catches a lot of heat for his comments, but I think a lot of times it's because he dares to utter the stripped-down truth rather than the candied-up politcal-speak we typically get these days (read: Ron Dennis). Lauda is from that same era as Stewart where they are strong enough to speak their minds, whether it matches the public sentiment or not.

Exactly. These guys act more and more like politicians all the time. It's as if saying something enough times will make it so.

 

In which part of your post did you indicate otherwise?

Unless you are saying that we don't know because we did not literally hear RD say it over the radio. In that sense, you assumed that it is HK's decision to move over?????

I would stop right here if I were you because you will really make a fool out of yourself if you continue.

 

Are you suggesting that because I didn't indicate that HK moved over and let LH pass I must believe the opposite? I also didn't say I wasn't a gay transvestite, but that doesn't mean I am.

I was responding to a post that suggested RD ordered HK to move over. I simply said we don't know who said what to whom. I don't know whether RD told HK to move over or whether HK did so of his own volition and neither does anyone else on this board. However, unlike some, I didn't make any assumptions about what happened.

 

As a racing driver you would expect HK to fight LH over position and not to give an opponent (even if he is a teammate) his position so easily which is why people think there are team orders. Although you are right in saying that we don't know what was said if anything at all.

 

HK was clearly a good deal slower than LH at that point in time; if he wasn't why was HE not passing Massa and Piquet?

 

I should have said so far this season.

 

RD stated in the German GP McLaren post race press release that "Heikki's time will come". Sounds pretty much like #2 driver to me.

 

Just because there is the burden of proof doesn't mean that it didn't happen. Obviously, that's what RD is trying to do (same as your mentality) - since there is no proof, I am going to act like there is no team order; bite me.

It doesn't matter who said it over the radio or if any at all; the fact is that HK moved over for LH and RD acted as if there were no team orders. He didn't have to make those meaningless and untruthful comments; he could have shut his mouth and move on, now he made a fool out of himself.

He is either on drugs or he really wants to sleep with LH; maybe thats why his wife left him