Would Alonso be saying this if he was going to Ferrari next year?

He doesn't say that at all. It sounds to me like he is saying that Ferrari does something better than Renault and that they will try to figure out how.

Some folks around here will reach for anything to criticize Alonso...

 

If it were Mclaren they sure would be checking that out, along with alot on here assuming they were cheating.

 

Hmmmmm...this is Formula 1, you know. Every team is watching everything that every other team is doing to see if anyone has an advantage somewhere.

You are reaching here...

 

This might help comparing I cant be bothered checking, unless Kimi's car uses less fuel he may have had more.

http://www.fia.com/hungarygp/documents/HUN_08_Race_Lap_Analysis.pdf

Alonso's in lap 2nd pitstop 1:24.326
out lap 1:47.032

Kimi's in lap 2nd pitstop 1:23.551 = - 0.775 sec
out lap 1:43.921 = - 3.111 sec

 

Sounds to me like a fuel strategy issue. Kimi pitted two laps after Fonz, and my guess is the Ferrari had more fuel still in the tank.

 

Actually, there's a back-handed compliment in his comments. He's basically saying Ferrari is on to something that Renault isn't getting right. Whether it's a technology or strategy, Ferrari is obviously ahead of Renault's game.

 

Alonso is a really great pilot, I'm sure that Ferrari can make room for him, plus he has a direct connection to technical manuals that keep him up to date.

 

No, I think he's asking a legitimate question about the ability to fuel Kimi up so quickly to get out in front of him (especially after Kimi went off). I think the options are:

a. His car was that much faster than FA's and was able to open a sizable gap once FA pitted (probable)

b. His pit was for tyre change but they still added a bit more fuel (possible)

c. The fuel hose is rigged to push through at a rate higher than what's standard for everyone else. Not certain if that's illegal, but I doubt this is what led to Kimi getting past FA (though still possible).

I don't think he's complimenting Ferrari though...his wording suggests suspicion, not compliments.

 

when the FIA regulated fuel rigs came in use there were a few incidents with fires. It turned out the team had removed a filter to get more fuel in the car. I think it was Benneton. So Renault probably knows best how this works

 

I couldnt understand how Kimi got past Alonso after he went sideways but it shows in clean air that Kimi could show his true pace and leap frog Fernando. Ok I just looked up the data:

Alonso Pitted on Lap 50 his inlap was 1:24.326 with pit time of 26.5
His outlap was 1:47.032

Raikkonen pitted on Lap 51 his inlap was 1:23.551 with pit time of 24.6
His outlap was 1:43.921


Kimi had a better inlap and the Ferrari stop was 2 seconds quicker this enabled them to leap frog. Nothing in it Renault/Flavio so get over yourself!

 

alonso slowed down on purpose to concede the spot. he wants to finish lower in the points so he can get out of his renault contract.

i can't think of any other way i couldn't believe it when i saw it.

 

Yeah Alonso would be saying that cause he never thinks before he speaks.
He could care less about his team, so why would he care about who he may or may not go to in the next few seasons?

 

I think they are concerned that the pit stop was 2 seconds quicker and that there is something Renault ought to be doing to speed their own pit stops up. Nothing more to it than that. I am amazed at the lengths some folks go on here to criticize Alonso.

It's OK. I suspect that once Alonso joins Ferrari, most of you will be proclaiming him as the second coming...

 

Apples and oranges. Remember that there was trouble with Kimi's transponder during Hungary. T&S showed him stopped on track at one point, and formula1.com has neither of his pit stops in the pit summary. Just as they didn't have any of the early stops by anyone from Germany.

So "pit times" are comparing times measured by different sources.

But anyone who remembers the Schumi era will recall the benefit of putting in a faster lap after the opponent has pitted. The Ferrari's pace was just that much quicker than the Renault's. (Look at the pace Phil was putting down without a "wide car" in front of him.)

Makes you wonder what F1 is doing wrong, that Kimi couldn't get around Alonso on track.
Maybe they should lose those carbon brakes, and spend a little more time under braking ... where the passes can happen.

It's very hard to pass in F1 if the guy in front doesn't make a mistake .... and Alonso tends to make his mistakes *off* track. (In the press room, when dealing with the team, etc. ... whenever he opens his mouth, ...)

Maybe someone ought to remind Fernando how annoyed he got at Nurburgring last year when Phil didn't just move over for him, after getting an unbalanced set of tires that made his Ferrari slower than the McLaren. Then ask him why he didn't get out of Kimi's way at either Germany or Hungary this year.

 

+1

The way I read it he suggests that Ferrari fiddled with the fuel rig (which is supplied by a FIA contractor and the same for every team).

 

Same here. It amazes me the lengths some will go to cover up for this fool.

 

I couldn't stop laughing after reading this one. Most probably haven't gotten it but I did. Perhaps Alonso also comes with a set of Mclaren manuals as well. If that's the case perhaps dealing with his whining is well worth it.

 

+1

 

fernando always has something to say. the poor guy seems so paranoid.. if someone beats him, he feels like he'd been cheated. sheesh!