Issue w/ my Ferrari purchased at Ferrari of Newport beach

I would for sure be steaming if this was not disclosed before the sale. Not only because of the lack of disclosure but it may hurt any future resale value of the car. I can say IMO that I would not want a car that has been resprayed with no report on the extent of the damage.

 

There have been Ferraris delivered from the factory to their first owners that had to be returned to the dealer due to factory paint problems. I'm not sure how or why your car was repainted, just be aware that not every factory paint is perfect and resprays do occur.

Then again, I can think of legit driving reasons why your black car may have had a repaint without body damage - road pebbles.

Does your front end show any painted over craters? A lesser shop's spraying might leave very small dimples where they resprayed over inadequately prepared surfaces. These could be very small and tough to see.

 

Hmm, these guys know these cars explicitly so this is a surprise that they would claim no paint work when it had. They may have figured since you are out of the area that they'd take a chance on a car that may have been sitting around a while. Regardless, now the car is documented on the net as a repainted car so it's already worth less than the price is was represented and sold at. Either send it back on their nickel or get a further discount based on it being a repaint and whatever the reason was for a total repaint. Good luck.

 

I don't know how old the car is but it looks like 7 years? Black is a difficult color to keep up. If one of the prior owners was a perfectionist, he might have had the car re-sprayed
in order to get rid of the swirls, chips, etc.

Unless you had some major collision your car is probably better for the paint work. Over seven years, stone chips an add up. Plus even if a bumper was scraped, as long as it was fixed your car is fine. I scraped my bumper the other night just inching forward to park. I retouched it and I don't think my car is a write-off.

I can understand being upset since you were not told about it, but other than a single owner car being sold by that owner, I don't think you can expect to know the entire history of a car. This is just one of the reasons used cars are less than new. Next time you negotiate and you are not getting the price you should, just tell them that you are the one taking all the risks because who knows what this car has been through!

But if it is otherwise acceptable and no structural damage to the frame occured I think you are all right. Just think about the cars that are sold that have already gone through a clutch job with new throw out bearing and ring gear. Why aren't these cars total write offs if we use the same logic?

Clutches are fixable, but bumpers and paint are not? Obviously you have a case to cancel the sale in any case.

 

technically, youre out of luck... but the dealer will probably make it right to maintain his reputation.

keep in mind bumpers dont count as 'repaints'.

if the job is immaculate i wouldnt car.. as long as the car was never hit.
classic case of buying shI T online...

shocking anybody would spend 100 grand and not even see the car.. puzzling!

 

I have dealt with the dealer and this would be the first time I have ever heard of anyone being misled. A "misunderstanding" occurred or otherwise you have every right to upset. After hearing from the GM or whomever, let us know exactly what was said/done. Good luck. Best

 

A full respray should have been disclosed to you, period!

I would be extremly upset that it was not disclosed, the respray is not the issue, hiding it is.

FoNB is on this board, and am sure they have already read this.

Please keep us posted

 

The biggest problem I see is that the entire car was repainted and it was NOTICABLE to someone.... That makes me think that the paint job is sub-par, because a respray at the factory 7 years ago wouldn't be noticable.

The person who pointed this out...is he in the business? Or just a car nut?

The issue could be resolved to your satisfaction I'm sure with a financial discount....the question is, what would that be? $1500? $2500? $7500? Resale is clearly going to be hurt because the next guy is going to walk away and buy one which was never painted. Personally for me to take a "painted car" I would expect a 20% discount, at least. Add previous body damage and I'm walking away....

 

I agree with MalibuyGuy here. Definitely an issue from the standpoint of them not disclosing this fact. That being said - if someone told me that a car had been repainted by Premier due to stone chips or scratches - I would be 100% satisified since it probably came out better from Premier than it did from the factory. IF there is no evidence of frame damage or mechanical issues and the paint is purely a cosmetic matter then I'd say enjoy the car. I'm curious though how your friend and Algar determined it was repaint? Was there something evident? Ferrari of NB IS a reputable dealer and I can't imagine that they'd knowingly lie to you about something like this.

 

If it was hit, yes, this is an issue. And Carfax isn't all that reliable, because when these cars were new an owner would have had repairs done out of pocket.

As far as resprays, I agree with these posts -- black shows a lot of abuse. Stone chips, overzealous buffing, parking lot scrapes, bird **** damage. Lots of reasons why it could have been resprayed.

Although if FoNB said "original paint" then it's still an issue. I'd definitely have it assessed by another expert for a second opinion and then decide.

 

There are two ways to paint a car... The way your car was repainted they taped up the windows, etc and sprayed the car. A very inexpensive method, and not the "right way"

The proper way to repaint the car is to disassemble it, and paint each part individually. The car is basically stripped...headlights, door trims, etc etc.



That being said, I doubt the car was in an accident because if they replaced a body panel, they would have just painted the panel, THEN installed it, and blended it into the rest of the car. If the entire car shows signs of "edging" then my guess would be the car was repainted because of excessive chips, fading?, maybe defective paint? Car keyed? The fact that the windshield was replaced, maybe a hail storm? Or an angry ex-girlfriend????


Get some cash back...ideally some documentation on exactly what happened (police report, previous owner statement, body shop who did the work report) and enjoy the car

 

Glove box won't stay shut huh?
I have seen cars with damaged right sides and then the glove box won't close again because of the misalignment that happens in an accident.

Might be a something there to dig in. As I haven't heard of many 360 owners constantly complaining about glove box issues.
Visor issues, yes. Glove box, no.

Hunter

 

I have seen brand new Ferraris, sometimes 2-3 at a time at the local body shop, with the stickers still in the window etc. under repairs. Like a new bumper on one, some side scraping on another....etc. etc.

Even though, these are Ferraris and get some special care during transport, they are cars in transport and get damaged from time to time during delivery.

I suspect very strongly those repairs are NEVER ever brought up to the new owner. IF the factory accepts this with an authorized repair facility, then it's new in their mind.

FWIW...

rik

 

6k mile car should be in almost perfect condition unless it was heavily tracked or driven behind salt trucks the entire 6k miles. I find it very hard to believe that a large dealer like Newport Beach wouldn't know the car had been completely repainted.

 

You're wrong. See Gore (not al) v. BMW. If you google it, you'll see why a manufacturer would be scared to death not to tell the purchaser.

Art

 

When I had my 360 my glove box had trouble staying closed and was mis-aligned. The authorized dealer showed me other cars in their service bays with the exact same issues. He said it was normal. They fixed it and I never had another issue with it.