Yep, fits with the recrods I have, new quarter panel and paint in effected areas as well as new tire..from my records with repair shop...all others were structure fine and re-painted after cleaning..the side windows are plastic, so I can only assume the rear side was replaced. I do not have any notes on the wing, but from the pic I would have to guess it as well was either repaired or replaced...I would think replaced...but I am no expert on body work.... Cars is avalible for any PPI anyone wishes.. Thanks for the pic, I am sure this clears up a lot of the so called BURNED to the ground CRISP talk....as it can be seen not the case..all cosmetic CF that is now correct..IMO at least. What it does to the value? I know of no other for sale, so hard to gauge...I am open to offers of reason.
roy it does nothing to the value, my old miura sv looked alot worse. it only scares off the people who are flakes aka 360 t
wtf are you talking about, has nothing to do to the value?, the car is burned up to ****s, crispy as a fried chicken and you say it does nothing to the value. as being a flake, i will put my credentials against yours any day of the year my friend. oh wait you dont have one . you are not even a subscribed user but i am willing to donate to your fund if you like.
roy i think that you night want to disclose the fire issue on your ebay listing, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___2000-Lamborghini-Diablo-GTR_W0QQitemZ170247888172QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item170247888172&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A10%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&timeout=1218653669619 i think it is only fair to the buyer that has no clue about the history of the car
No offense but if you're going to buy a Diablo GTR on ebay, you should do your research on the car first. I think anyone who is seriously considering buying this car would know about the fire damage before they make the commitment. Caveat Emptor Just my 0.02
If it's a race car, then I wouldn't think it would do too much to the value if the replacement parts were OEM and all damage has been corrected. Depending on how hot, extreme and long the fire burned though, some inspection of the chassis welds around the fire area would be in order; the picture may be mostly visual damage since body panels get charred up pretty quickly even if the fire was out in a few seconds from pulling the fire system release which I'd assume was done. I've blown two engines in one of my race cars, one involved an oil fire too when a rod came through the crank case which allowed oil to get on the headers, but that happens in racing, it didn't affect the value of the car when I sold it and the buyer knew about the history of the car; of course I had to spend quite a bit to fix it each time that kind of issue occurred, but sounds like that is what was done with this race car as well. If you view it as a Lamborghini street car, then yes, the value would be hurt considerably because there are always going to be numerous equivalent cars on the market that have not had the same occurrence. It's not a street car and there are significantly less of these in existence.
understood and that's why i did my homework but as a dealer you are not responsible to disclose this information? so basicly what you are saying is that if the buyer does not know he is getting ****ed by roy its okay?
I can see what you say, but come on, if you buy a car off of e-bay for 350K PLUS without calling us, getting all of our service records and speaking to us about it to give you all the info...well I hate to say it...but you are an idiot!! I will stay with what I have...and provide all details to potential customers that have a true intrest....just as we did to you when you contacted us. Thanks for the input
I have done everything in my power to be civil with you...bvut it appears you are on just some kind of witch hunt...? Enjoy and oplease if you think I will F**K you, do not do business with me.. Thanks
so what you are saying is that, you will pay the same amount of money or just a bit less for a race car that have had major fire damage compared to one that had not. correct?
i am being civilized roy but apparently you dont want to do business the proper way. you should disclose to the buyer if the car has any issues and for crying out loud i think the car being on fire is a major issue. dont you think? why did not you come out and just post it on your intro that the car had fire damage. you would have sold the car to me if i did not ask so many questions and you knew that i would find out about the fire down the line. it is just not a correct way of doing business roy. no matter how you look at it. remember this is a small community just be honest
and i am sorry you are a con artist if you knowingly sell a car that had fire damage and you do not disclose it to the buyer.
I don't think Roy is expecting to sell the car on ebay Caveat Emptor, like i said. Roy isn't going to lie but the buyer should know what to look for and what to ask about
I was going to put that. I thought i did Why is it Roys job to disclose everything when the buyer doesn't ask? The BUYER should know what to look for and what to ask What i can say with 95% certainty is that whoever buys this car will know about the damage. If not, they jumped in Either way, they won't be dissapointed
You know Eli, we informed you of all issues about this car and what we have records of being replaced. I personally sent you the information. No one is lying, no one is trying to cover anything up, and no one is avoiding disclosure. You've done your asking questions about us in New York....yeah, it's a small community, you think our phone didn't ring when you were asking about us? Bottom line, it's a race car Eli...you have a challenge car and I suppose you're going to say that your challenge car you wanted to trade in is the only challenge car that never went into the wall or hit another car? I would venture to guess your challenge car has accident history as well...of course you only asked if we would take it on trade, and left it at that. Kevin
A high up person at McLaren once told me a buyer was ready to buy a McLaren F1 GTR but wanted one with no damage history. This guy told him there wasn't such a car. The potential buyer couldn't work it out and was confused. He was told every single one has some kind of history to it. The guy walked away
I don't consider body panels to be major fire damage since body panels don't play a major role in a race car and are easily replaced, even suspension and other parts are not major damage. The car is yellow, I could hold a lighter against it and make it look like it had major damage in just a few minutes. If the repairs were done properly and the fire was not allowed to burn for very long, then going over the welds in the area of the fire should be all that's needed to ensure it's structurally sound. So yes, since race cars depreciate pretty rapidly and then stabilize, I'd spend nearly the same on a car that had a fire if I trusted it was structurally sound; this one doesn't depreciate like a normal race car since it's rare and collectible, but it's still a race car and WAS RACED. Every race car I've purchased so far has been used, and my Radical had been into a wall before I purchased it but the components on the right front suspension that had been damaged, and the front bodywork were replaced, the chassis checked to be straight and true and the car driven for a check out out by someone I had confidence in, so I was completely satisfied that the car was good as-is and paid what similarly spec'd Radicals were going for at the time.
