PF Coupe 0997 @ RM Monterey

Hi All,

As I am still in the hunt for a PF Coupe (Manion's car at Norbert Hoffer's was sold to a higher bidder), I am interested in #0997 coming up in Monterey (www.rmauctions.com). The car looks cosmetically acceptable by photos and the description, and it seem sto have recent work performed on it. Due to health issues, I am entirely unable to make the trip. Does anyone know #0997 well enough to describe its condition and provenance a little better than the auction site? Has anyone seen/driven/iwned this series one car?

Thank you in advance.

Forza,
David

 

Just saw it, what do you want to know? M

 

David

From the Registry :

http://web.mac.com/ferrari250pfcoupe/250PFCoupe/Series_1_Cars/Pages/0997_GT.html

Good luck.

Darren.

 

In the registry it is said to have fibreglass engine cover & trunk lid! Has this been sorted?

 

Have you been to Tom Yang's (www.tomyang.net)? Some of the work recent done to this car is documented in the diary entries of July 2008! Best wishes, Kare

 

Hi,

Thanks to everyone for helping me with info on 0997.

I spoke to a fellow in the Northeast about this car today. It sounds so far like a nice mechanical restoration with descent cosmetics.

I didn't realize some PF coupes came with fiberglass components. To thie best of my knowledge, the 2 I have inspected in person had aluminum bonnets.

I suppose all that's left that I'd really like to know on the car is whether or not it needs any further work to be an effective rally participant, and if anyone has seen the body recently and intimately enough to notice areas of rust or other underbody corrosion.

It is bizarre considering to buy an expensive car sight unseen, but these vehicles are relatively rare, and I am considering making "the leap" in my quest for a PF to rally.

Forza,
David

 

Have never heard of a GRP bonnet, so that may be a mix-up. GRP trunk lids were pretty standard; about half of early production had GRP trunk lids, the rest being alloy. Best wishes, Kare

 

That info was from the then current owner posted on the register page in the link. You would think he would know.... I would check this before purchase.

 

Why not speak to Tom Yang?

 

Early inside plug cars have fiberglass trunks. Have had several.

 

Did you buy it?

 

Discussed on Tom's site - went to a dealer in Europe.

 

Jean Guikas, GTC Sarl. in Marseille, France.
Marcel Massini

 

Who it seems, acording to Tom Y.'s site, has already removed the drum brakes and engine for separate sale. $190,000 for a parts car. Nice work Jean.

Best,

Yale

 

a matching numbers car, no less. unreal. and sad.

 

Blame it on the weak dollar?

Al

 

This rather vicious report apperared in the current Ferrari Market Letter:

250 GT PF Coupe, S/N 0997 GT. Maroon with beige leather. Estimate $175,000 - $250,000. Visually maintained, largely original, 4 condition. Hammered sold at $172,500 plus commission of 10.00% = final price of $189,750. Chrome Borranis, bullet fender mirror, roof side marker lights. Bad fits, superficial repaint, discolored interior, engine looks rebuilt but then installed in a dirty compartment. A mistreated rat given the worst kind of superficial auction treatment. It's hard to be hard enough on a piece of ---- like this. Apparently someone actually bought it and paid a princely sum in the process, making it the poster car for Buyer's Remorse Illustrated. The catalog suggested it had covered just the 29,052 miles showing on its odometer, a number that the gritty, oily sludge coating the engine compartment mocked. Lot # 487 RM Monterey Saturday

Tom Shaugnessy posted this on Tom Yang's site for their comments. Nice one Tom! They were quite rightly very relaxed in response and pointed out that they had done what was requested by the owner to put it in good running order.

Also I would guess that Guikas will be fitting disc brakes & outside plug engine to the car for re-sale to recoup his investment. A shame in a way but at least it then has proper Series 2 spec, so it's not the end of the world except perhaps to some of the more extreme matching number fetishists (sorry guys!).

I have to confess that I bought 1421GT with the same thoughts in mind as I needed drum brakes & inside plug engine for a project, but that thankfully I managed to source them separately and the car will soon be running again (after many years off the road) with it's modesty intact.

 

I am glad to hear 1421 will remain a car.

Is she there yet?

Tom W

 

Cleared customs at Southampton on Thursday. Expecting delivery on Tuesday. I'll email you when here.

 

When the guy loaded her on the truck he adjusted the big mercedes AMG four door above it with his hydraulics and the merc dropped to within about 6" of 1421's roof but stopped short. I took a quick breath. No harm done. He raised up the benz a bit and locked it all down.

He had a very nice rig with all those hydraulically adjustable ramps and could haul at least six cars. I asked him what the trailer cost and he said about $90,000.

I thought that was pretty reasonable for what it will do.

Tom W

 

1421 was always going to remain a car, just might have been transformed to second series spec (which to me too isn't as interesting as the first series)

 

I agree. And they just don't look as good with the 15" wheels.

Tom W

 

0997 GT is now offered by GTC Marseille in France, see:

www.guikasgtc.fr/site/cars_sale.asp?detail=729

Best regards

-Kevin