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Exclusive: Texas Man Rebuilds $1.5 Million Ferrari Enzo

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  1. jsanocki

    jsanocki Formula Junior

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    Why?
     
  2. Asian1118

    Asian1118 F1 Rookie

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    Really, Why?

    I dont think it looks bad in the pictures. I'm sure it would have been better if the factory did it like they've done before.
     
  3. rob lay

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    No issues with Carsleuth, but maybe someone else.
     
  4. Argento839

    Argento839 F1 Veteran

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    I agree. I am glad to see it saved. I would be curious to know the details of the repair...
     
  5. rmk

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    Two posts in and you are already calling for a ban? LOL
     
  6. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    i'd say you (as would we...) benefit greatly from a trip to time-out!
     
  7. Carsleuth

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    What did I say???
     
  8. Argento839

    Argento839 F1 Veteran

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    No kidding. Don't worry about it.
     
  9. matthewsauto

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    I started taking pictures and posting the repair process on my web site a few months ago. Then a few "experts" on FC started commenting and it wasn't worth the aggravation, so I took the pictures off. Message boards can be good and bad. When the car first arrived, one of my friends 20 year old buddies was here and took some pictures. He then posted them on a message board claiming he was the owner and how he was going to fix the car, etc. You just don't know who's on the other end of that keyboard. Thus, I don't come on here claiming to be something I am not. I will say that we have now repaired a Ferrari Enzo as good as any shop in the world, even Ferrari. Sorry guys, our paint work is better then factory. I am sure some of you will most likely agree. Does that make me an expert? Who knows, it was a lot of fun with the exception of having to wait on parts. I have owned and driven many cars. This one is amazing. A true supercar in all that it does.

    Thanks, glad to know there are some people who think like me. I prefer to strap myself into a car and drive it. I show some of my cars as well, but the racing and driving them is much more fun. That's my opinion and opinions are like A-holes... everyone has one.

    I hope I haven't offened anyone. I am really a pretty good guy. Ferraris are awesome vehicles and if you own one, take the car cover off and go drive it. Winter is just about here.
     
  10. dysko

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    Thanks for the update... after the initial reception people gave you, I was thinking you would never be back to let us know how things turned out.
     
  11. WJHMH

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    #36 WJHMH, Sep 2, 2008
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    You sir are a credit to your industry, I think about the same way. These cars are meant to be driven & if something happens, than fix it & move on. Btw, do you still have the E30 M3? That's one sweet lil' racer. Here's a couple of photos I took of it at a track day back in 2004 but resulted in a rainout.
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  12. Argento839

    Argento839 F1 Veteran

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    Good going Matt
     
  13. TexasF355F1

    TexasF355F1 Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    You want to ban yourself?

    That's hilarious.
     
  14. ClassicFerrari

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    Don't worry too much about it Matt. There are alot of "experts" around here. I would just like to say thank you for saving her.

    So the reserve has been met on ebay? Looks like it might sell! Let us know how things go.

    All the best.
     
  15. redzone

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    #40 redzone, Sep 3, 2008
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    I ,as everyone else did, followed the crash & repair from afar. Its great to see it ready to go .If one in good condition is worth 1.3 million. Whats a 'fair" price for one that was repaired ?
    How is that decision arrived at with a car so rare & exspensive ?
     
  16. matthewsauto

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    I sold it in 2005 to a good friend and customer like many speciality cars change ownership. We built that first generation M3 race car in 2004 and it's still very competitive in BMW CCA club racing. It won it's class last year and now everyone is shooting for the owner this year who has three kids in college now. Hard on the racing budget. We still maintain it and like all of our race cars try to keep it reliable. Makes racing more fun when you're not working on the cars at the track. Right Rob? Thanks for asking about a great car.

    Speaking of great cars. Who wants to buy a Ferrari Enzo? I drove it this weekend. With the exception of everyone with their cell phone cameras trying to get close on the freeway to take pictures it was a blast. Then, early Sunday morning while driving to the shop a police officer pulled beside me. Yes, I was 10 MPH over... He signaled to me to step on it and go. Ah, OK???? A little reluctant, I down shifted and hit the gas to 100 MPH. (40 over the speed limit) He then passed me with thumbs up and was on his way.
     
  17. thecheddar

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    Brilliant! You don't enjoy that kind of police treatment every day!

    Have to say, I don't understand all the hubbub about Matt fixing the car - it wasn't destroyed, by a long-shot. Having worked on sailboats, I know first hand that carbon fiber and other composites are not like steel or aluminum - It's brittle and requires replacement of components (unlike a bent steel or aluminum frame). If you can replace what is damaged (cost-effectively of course), the car can be as good or better than new. Besides, a million dollar car leaves a lot of leeway for repairs.

    Enjoy it!
     
  18. TopElement

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    Yes, the cars can be fixed. The issue here is who fixes it and how. Then what's the value of it?
     
  19. BAM

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    Really though, Its hard to read what you wrote. Could you re-post with the help of an english teacher?
     
  20. tyzorg

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    WOW!
     
  21. zjhoward

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    I love how the Enzo continues to be revalued by news organizations. I would like to find out how the Enzo's value changes each time it is mentioned in a different news article. We ought to make some equation for how its value increases each time there is a high profile wreck and tons/segments of articles written about it.


    600,000 > 900,000 > 1,200,000 > 1,500,000 > ?

    v(n) = 600,000 + 300,000*n

    Where v is the value and n is the number of high profile wrecks.



    Wait til' everyone realizes they made more than 400 of them; I might have to do another equation...
     
  22. MamoVaka

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    the damage done to the enzo in that crash was really not that bad.. yes the entire front had to be rebuilt.. but if the frame is ok and everything was rebuilt to factory specs the car is probably indentical to a new enzo..

    the question is all about numbers.. those who can buy an enzo at 1.1 million will probably opt for a non fixed enzo at 1.4 or whatever they cost..

    I never understood the concern over a car that has been rebuilt.. as long as it's done well there should be no problem at all :)
     
  23. Meeyatch1

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    I am just happy this car is back on the road instead of scrapped. It is too good of a car to have been wrecked in some publicity stunt. Kudos for fixing her up and letting her run again! How many miles are on it now anyway?
     
  24. matthewsauto

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    7400 miles currently, but 7500 miles after this weekend. Going to have some fun with it. Incredible automobile!

    Thanks, agreed. The people that can afford an Enzo can now own two of them. One to take to shows and then this one to drive and have fun with at the track. My kind of fun. There was a local TV station that did a piece about the car a couple days ago. As soon as I get a copy I will put on YouTube.
     

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