Always thought highly of Eddie (now even more so); I met him a few years ago at Watkins Glen - what a cool cat. I couldn't agree more with his comment about why F1 needs the FIA - that layer of politicians never made sense to me. Kevin S. Orchard Park, NY Lets get this straight from the outset. Im going to hold no punches in this article because the decision to strip Lewis Hamilton of the race win was bizarre! I think Formula 1 is an absolute joke now and it has lost all credibility. Lewis did as well as he could have done in relation to the law and was still penalised. Okay, so he took the legality of it to the limit but I definitely think he was on the right side of the limit. For starters, Kimi pushed him off the road in the first place! Lewis overtook him and Kimi blatantly pushed him off so the reason why Lewis missed the chicane was because of Kimi. Lewis let him back past by just enough so he could then pull a great overtaking manoeuvre into the next corner. I dont know whether it was the FIA or the stewards on the day but the sport has lost all credibility and the bias is simply ridiculous. If it wasnt for Virgin Media, I wouldnt watch F1 anymore. Ive had enough of this bulls**t. Im not so sure the FIA has a bias for Ferrari as such but I definitely think they are biased against McLaren. I think if it was BMW, Toyota or someone else it wouldnt have happened. I dont understand why teams now just dont go and do their own thing. They dont need the FIA and they dont need CVC capital. They need to plan to break away on a certain date and pay a bunch of lawyers to run the company. The teams make the money and there is a board in place to make decisions as they do with the NFL in America. Its disgraceful where its got to now. How Massa never got a penalty in the last race was bulls**t. A fudged up excuse was made for him afterwards because they couldnt think fast enough to do it during the race! It reminds me of the Bush administration. Lazy, bad judgement, self-serving and you dont know where its coming from. Who is it that is creating all this bulls**t? If you look at the letter of the law, I dont see how McLarens appeal cant be successful. He has to be re-instated but then again, we are talking about the FIA and they are a bunch of idiots. The great shame of it was that it was such an exciting race. Hamilton was amazing and he is quite simply a better driver than any of them. He has pure class and they know it. He has a better feel, is more committed and has better judgement. I am looking forward to Robert Kubica and Fernando Alonso getting into better cars and then well have an amazing championship. But if this bulls**t keeps happening, I dont know if Ill want to watch it anyway! It is horrible to see this injustice happening. Everyone can make a mistake but this is mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake. Complete incompetence. I got banned for three races because a car lost its flywheel in front of me and I swerved instead of braked. I told them I didnt have time to brake at 200mph! They compared it to a motorway accident where if you swerve from an outside lane into another lane and cause an accident you are at fault. But at 200mph you are not supposed to be sitting three feet from the car in front of you on the motorway. In F1, thats exactly where youre meant to be. The FIA have been stupid before and made many stupid decisions but I have never known an organisation turn so corrupt. They should be embarrassed to take that race win away from Lewis. Lewis cant blame the team or himself. Next up is Monza and I am hoping to go but I doubt the FIA will give me a pass after what I have said! But who cares, someone has to say something because its getting ridiculous now. Im looking forward to Monza. Great race, great people, brilliant atmosphere but probably usual bulls**t! Talk to you after Monza if they let me in! Eddie Irvine.
Had to stop reading his BS after "For starters Kimi pushed him off the road" Just another opinion from someone who has an axe to grind. Good luck with the booze and the gilrs Eddie.
I agree with everything except Kimi pushing him off. Kimi basically held his line and forced Hami to make a track decision, which he didn't do correctly. If you remember two races ago. Hami did the same thing, not once, not twice but three times in that race, and I said to all there: "hami seems to have developed a near, fine line skill of forcing his opponents off...cleaver and risky, but gutsy" I think Hami [Don't flame me] will be a force to recon with in the attitude in that he'll put it to others, very, directly, which is what has been missing to this now, rather, boring road race called F1 But I still record, watch and listen.
He is 100% correct. Watch the video Kimi absolutely pushes Lewis wide and I say this as a Ferrari fan. While I cant stand dour Ron Dennis and his fellow humorless drones at Mclaren, Lewis won the race fair and square. PS wish we had a few more Eddie Irvines on the grid today.
I think the point is - let them race!! Passing is so f-ing hard these days, if you penalize a guy for trying then you will have more Valencia like races where no one dares trying a pass. A perfect example is Heikki's penalty for punting Webber. That obviously didn't help either driver, yet Kovalinen still gets a drive through. I say dump the FIA, become like IRL & NASCAR and run the show themselves............ Kevin S. Orchard Park, NY (Basking in the glory of the 1-0 Bills!)
There are brakes on the car for a reason. Felipe forced him wide in Hungary and LH didnt cry then - Hard to after you get your a** handed to you by a guy "who didnt defend well" LH doesnt like the taste of his own medicine. Rather give up the position after CUTTING the chicane(penalty is right out of the books 25 sec within 5 laps of finish), he drag races Kimi hoping he wont be caught. RD asked Charlie for a ruling because he knew it simply didnt look good. Law of averages here, he was busted after getting away with it before as posted above by Rik. If Kimi does this and is not penalized what uproar do you think would ensue from Mclaren. Heck Ferrari didnt even protest this incident. The stewards initiated the whole thing and there is bias? Hardly.
Brian, in the video taken from driver's right, BOTH right fronts on BOTH cars were locked up. It was Kim's corner, still. We teach people all the time in Skip Barber that if you're on the inside, you've "taken the corner" and have prevented the outside car from turning in, unless they want contact. It was LH's decision to stick it in there... It was LH's consequences for toughing it out. I have no dog in this fight, but from a racing perspective, especially given how strong LH came on in the wet and that the pass was inevitable, it was a low percentage move on his part. Kimi did NOT squeeze him up to turn in, but had little choice after the apex given both had lost steering control of their cars due to lockup.
I don't know about Kimi pushing him off the road, that was just a consequence of running out of room. Other then that, an interesting article, and I fully agree with his take on the FIA.
Hi Peter, Done a few skippys at Lime Rock culminating in a race series event there in 06'...great memories. Look all I am saying is that Lewis deserved his win and I think anyone with unbiased glasses would agree. To take away the win was very, very harsh.
If his gap to second was above 25 sec then thats not the case. He got the penalty right out of the 2008 FIA Sporting Regulations. It would have been only 10 sec if the incident occured prior to 5 laps to go. Within 5 laps of finish its 25 sec. The teams all agree to this and thats how it is.
A classic story is that Bill Ford Jr. was looking over the payroll in FOMOCO at the highest paid employees and asked who the guy at the top was "Edmund Irvine Jr"...making $15M a year........
Eddie's got one thing right. And that is that the FIA has the A$$ for McLaren and is pro red cars...That is pretty obvious.
My point being that there should have been no penalty in the first place. Look you have ex champions who know what they are talking about like Irvine, Lauda etc all saying the same thing.
Well they penalized him in France for the same thing. Penalty for infraction. He cut the chicane. Thats not debatable at all. Trulli actually drove in the race and feels different. He's currently employed as an F1 driver unlike the rest.