Maserati 200S and 200SI List

http://www.barchetta.cc/english/all.maserati/summary/sn.250si.htm

 

This list is totally outdated and so not a good source anymore! I have a list of all 200S`s in my database with many updates, race-entries, owners-chain etc., etc.!

Ciao!
Walter

 

No, ...not one!

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Walter

 

This is Slim Helson`s 200S, chassis #2421, in Lawrenceville 1960. The car was later fitted with a Chevy V8 and had a long racing career.

Today the car is located in Italy with its original engine installed.

Ciao!
Walter
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Walter...

Do you wanna share that list? ;-)

where is 150S #1664 by the way way these days?.. It is my duty to ONE day repatriate this car to sweden.. Though cant afford to quite yet..

3500 engine buyer decided to wait Walter...

 

Nik,
the list is too long to share it and contains too much photos and research results I did over the years. Also its one basis of my business today.

#1664 is today in Italy. I assume you mean #1665? This car, a 150S, has a confusing history possibly much connected with the 200S #2404 which resides in the USA today. This photo shows #2404 in the Triponti-Castelnouvi-race in 1956 with José Behra driving.

Ciao!
Walter
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Is there a 150s with #1665 today? Where is it? Björkegren-Sköld 1990

 

Official thesis is that #1665 was converted to 200S-specs and re-stamped to #2404. But in the histories of each car are some gremlins...! Question still is: when and why came the car back to Italy and when was it renumbered? I doubt that official version. I believe there are 2 different cars: a 150S and an early 200S. #2404 was used by the factory for some aerodynamic tests. It was more or less a test-car although it came to action with Taruffi, Moss, Perdisa and José Behra (an amateur racer and brother of factory driver Jean Behra) who alone had 4 entries with it. All this drivers drove the car in 200S-specs when #1665 was also active but as a 150S.

The #2404-#1665-connection remains a mystery.

Ciao!
Walter

 

have you got the Australian cars down?

 

Yes. Any updates? Photos?

Ciao!
Walter

 

will ask the owners on Sunday (Ferrari carbi drive day) both own 275's.
ps, still got to get my 300s photos ect togeither for you.
go to www.classicthrottleshop.com.au cars for sale and look at the Rice race trailer ex Doug Whiteford.

 

My 300S-book is finished and currently undergoing binding in Singapore, but still interested in those photos.

Ciao!
Walter

 

#1665. 1983 Corrado Cupellini ,1992 Terrence w Hefty is that right Walter? I read in a swedish magasin that Bonnier told Maserati 1957 to put a 200s motor in his 150s #1665.

 

Here are two that I dug out of the archives;

The first is a car when owned by the late Robert Fergus of Dublin, Ohio at Lime Rock 1984. Robert was very fast in this car and really enjoyed driving it.

The second is also Lime Rock but much earlier, 1958.

I have more to follow. David
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Funny...both are sister-cars:

the Fergus-car is #2423 and the car in Lime Rock 1958 is Col. Koehne`s #2424!

Ciao!
Walter

 

Yep, Hefty bought it in '92. BUT: the fact that Bonnier requested a 200S-engine in his 150S is not the issue. Puzzling is that we don`t know if he also requested a new body! He appeared little later with a "200S-looking-car" in Sweden and sold/loaned it to Ulf Norinder. I doubt that it was the same car!

Ciao!
Walter

 

What happend to #1665 at Nurnburgring in 1956? Was it crashed? Maybe after that it got a new body? It was renovated in 1978-1980 by Tony Clapham in England. It was black with an orange stripe on the car then it was delivered in April 1956.

 

Two more;

The first was used by Joe Marchetti during the 1986 Mille Miglia

The second was taken at the Pittsburgh Vintage GP.

David
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The fact that it was with Clapman -if it was a genuine car!- convinced me even more that we are talking about TWO cars owned by Bonnier!
I saw a crash photo of #1665 on the Nürburgring in the LAT-archive. Unfortunately the negative doesn`t exist anymoreand so a copy is only possible from the -glued!- contact-sheet....! The car was quite battered on the front nose. To upgrate it with a stronger engine was an easy job in Italy. Question remain - did it get a new body?

Ciao!

Walter

 

David,
the white car is #2422, when owned by Edmond Perry from Belgium. The stupid color-design came on the car in the US earlier. #2422 has a rather mysterious history related to Lance Raventlow of later Scarap-fame. Today this car is with Gnutti in Italy - but Perry had made an exact replica of it, claiming chassisnummer #2403 incl. this GaGa-paint-design!

THe red car is #2412.

Ciao!
Walter

 

Ulf Norinder had another car.. The last owner of 1665 in sweden, Mr Leufven , Says there were 2 cars here. one owned by Bonnier and the other one owned by Ulf Norinder, that was a real 200 SI, 1664 was a 150S. During this time engines were in one car one weekend and the oher the other weekend . Alsp papers were swapped between the cars , Eventually Bonnier owned both cars after Norinder crashed fairlLly quickly after he got it.. which VIN was Norinders car though I dont know..?

Olle Leufven has no doubts abouts this.. I also am in contact with Norinders Grandson but I havnt asked this yet..

Nik

nIK

 

It could well have gotten a new body there as at Imola where he drove the factory painted in bonniers colours to disguise the fact that he was driving a factory car.. that was a 200 SI so it had to have a 200 si body on by then..

NIK