Eddie Jordan weighs in......

Reasonable advice for LH.....

Jordan rubbishes Hamilton conspiracy theory.
Wed 24 Sep, 04:06 PM - Crash.net



McLaren-Mercedes' Lewis Hamilton is more than capable of winning the 2008 F1 World Drivers' Championship, underlines former team owner Eddie Jordan, but only if he can 'bring a little bit of humility to his form'.

Eddie Jordan has suggested Formula 1's conspiracy theorists take a more objective viewpoint of the penalties handed out to Lewis Hamilton and McLaren-Mercedes this year, and urged the world championship leader to show 'a little bit of humility' as the 2008 title showdown closes in.

Many have been quick to jump on the bandwagon claiming the sport's governing body, the FIA, is biased towards Ferrari, in the wake of McLaren's failure this week to have its argument against Hamilton's Belgian Grand Prix demotion heard by the International Court of Appeal. Former team owner Jordan, however, has called for a calmer appraisal of the situation.

The Irishman - who sold his eponymous outfit to Midland F1 in early 2005, having entered the top flight back in 1991 and achieved four grand prix triumphs, two pole positions and two fastest laps from 250 starts - agreed that Hamilton had been 'hard done by' to lose his Spa-Francorchamps victory, but insisted there is plot to deny either the Stevenage-born ace or his Woking-based team world championship glory.

"It has to be borne in mind that this is the fifth time that he's had some form of penalty this year and, being perfectly honest, all previous four were clear-cut cases against him," the 60-year-old told Irish broadcaster Setanta.

"If you take the situation where he blocked somebody in qualifying, it was clear. He paid the penalty. If you don't turn up on time, you pay the fine. In Montreal, he ran into the back of [Kimi] Raikkonen going through a red light, so that was clear too.

"If I was his team boss, I'd call him aside and say 'Lewis, you're the best person in the car - be very calm, be confident in your own ability but you don't need to do things you don't have to do'.

"We must not get carried away with 'They have it in for us'. It's the easiest form of defeat in my view. We must make sure we are not circumventing rules to make sure he wins it.

"He is great, but he needs to take a little bit of stock now and again and bring a little bit of humility to his form."

Mark Webber, meanwhile, has revealed that further debate resulting from Hamilton's chicane-cutting controversy in the Ardennes will take place in Singapore this weekend during a meeting of the Grand Prix Drivers' Association (GPDA) - of which the British star is not a member - as it is reported that some drivers are still unhappy about the clarity of the situation.

The GPDA has been lobbying for years to get all run-off areas asphalted over in the name of safety, but that has had the knock-on effect that drivers are now able to cut chicanes and rejoin the circuit without losing a great deal of time - indeed, on occasion, even gain time.

"There will be a discussion out here," Red Bull Racing's Webber told BBC Radio Five Live, admitting that the safety advances of asphalt run-off has rendered cutting chicanes a 'soft option' for drivers.

"Lewis would probably never have had a crack at Kimi around the outside at the first part of the Bus-Stop without knowing he had the option of going onto the asphalt part.

"I think we've got to get on top of the chicanes going forward, and we're not too far away from that at the moment, where drivers know that if you gain a position or gain an advantage, you have to give it back a bit more."

 

Yes you have to give it back a BIT more,!! thanks for that Eddie, thats the problem.
Along with selective penaltys..

 

And if there were pea gravel in that chicane LH would have tried that move, and if he did go through any pea gravel he would not have caught Kimi. Like Eddie says, a consequence of blacktop runoff areas.

 

'bring a little bit of humility to his form'.

I am glad I am not the only one that feels this way. But finally someone from the "clued in F1 world" appears that makes a rational statement.

 

Yes the nerve of a brit F1 insider offering LH any advice. Who does he think he is

 

I think he is Irish, so what do you expect, respect??



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Other than stating the obvious, like Eddie, are you assuming LH would have not over taken Kimi later then?, clearly struggling in the wet.

What we do know is that Kimi re-took LH then crashed, without the intervention of anyone.

Retrospect thinking is all well and good, but this rule that suddenly appeared that no one knew about, including Eddie, until it mysteriously appeared after the trophy had been handed out, is one that should have been used as a, "from now".

The rule being: You give back the advantage of cutting a chicane by attacking, after you have gone round a 2nd corner which IMO is BS.

The reason is, it will discourage overtaking, which F1 is desperate for and consequently turn the sport into procession again.

I would like to see the uproar on here if it was Massa that pulled the move on LH then had his win taken off him.

Believe me I support Ferrari, but I have a real job doing that under these circumstances, it was a shamefull call.

I place the blame firmly at the FIA for this mess, yet again another spoilt season.

 

Touche'

 

You'd love NASCAR if they showed it live in England. Lots of passing, bumping, animated drivers attacking each other in pit lane - everything you need to really enjoy a good race. Hamilton wouldn't do well in NASCAR though - his neck will never be red enough....

 

Here's an observation that hasn't been mentioned ...

When Lewis spun after passing Kimi, didn't that give back the advantage and more? Why wouldn't that count?



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Hehe, I watch this it's brillant...walk in the pitlane, chat to the drivers, just brillant fair racing with no BS.
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I bet you all don't know that Eddy Jordan is Hamiltons father

 

Perhaps you could explain your comment???

 

I for one think that the "clued in F1 world" may have been a large part of what got him into this arrogant behavior mode. Even a good kid can be easily spoiled.

 

Your own mistake is not a payback for a penalty offense. I guess you could make a case for that if you could believe that he spun deliberately out of a gentleman's remorse...in which case, I have some mutual fund shares for sale.

 

Hahahaha!

 

People interpret openess as being a lack of humility. Please notice that Hamilton is the driver most comfortable with the predominant language of the sport (English) that makes it onto the podium press-conference, and always shows a lot of wide-eyed enthusiasm....something that most drivers refrain from showing. Did you ever see Schumi reacting to questions that were aimed at his "human-side", e.g. "What does winning this race mean to you?" The guy was so suspicious of reporters questions he was actually boring to watch in interviews. I prefer Massa, LH, Rosberg who give the impression of being more open.

If Hamilton was really RD's robot, his interviews would sound like something written by Hal.

 

Wait... and Michael Schumacher was the poster boy for abundant humility?

 

"Open", that's what you call Hamilton's arrogance, eh? Massa and Rosberg are open without being arrogant. Even Fernando has learned humility, but not Hami. Not yet, anyway.