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  1. joe sackey

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    #4904 joe sackey, Sep 30, 2008
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    They say a book is coming...

    I would be interested in knowing if anyone has contacted Veloce Publishing and what sort of response they have gotten?

    You can PM me if you prefer.
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    #4906 Etcetera, Sep 30, 2008
    I believe the author of that book posts here on Fchat. :) Send him a PM.

    Delayed? I hope not.
     
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    #4908 joe sackey, Sep 30, 2008
    No its right on schedule, but Id love to get feedback as to how easy it is to order, any problems etc... Lemme know please.
     
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    Amazon hasn't let me down yet.
     
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    #4910 bax, Oct 1, 2008
    Joe - you seem never to run your beautiful miura with airboxes - I suspect as an originality issue & for the induction benefits both in performance & sound - however:-

    You must have considered the issues of unfiltered air being drawn into that magnificent engine - and those webbers can sure suck some air - and no doubt some crap with it.

    Have you ever tore down an engine ran exclusively with pipes and did you see bore damage or worse as a result.

    I would guess you would be lucky to get 20,000 miles between rebuilds on a car with this configuration even with a split sump - what are your thoughts & experiences?

    Bax.
     
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    #4911 f308jack, Oct 1, 2008
    Wow, what a thread! Just dropping in from the 'other side'

    Did the Sjah have more than 1 Miura? I remember an article in C&SC about his ex-Miura being auctioned, but it was a Jota with covered headlights, and IIRC dark red?
     
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    Exactly Bax. Those velocity stacks are for the concours lawn, not the road.
     
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    #4913 joe sackey, Oct 1, 2008
    He had 3 Miuras: the SVJ, an SV, and a P400S (technically his sister Princess Ashraf's car, but who's counting cars amongst Royalty eh?)
     
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    Bax: I have run some of my previous Miuras (4870, 5038, etc) exclusively on trumpets. Generally speaking, I do not drive on dusty country roads, so grit inhalation was minimal at worst, and the performance & response from the engine has been fantastic, not to mention the delightfully shrill whistling upon induction (like an over-boiling kettle!).

    One factor to consider is that by running the car on trumpets, the infamous 'Miura carb fire' scenario is all but eliminated. This is because the lack of airboxes means that the fuel for the fire (the air filters) and a suitable combustion chamber (the airboxes) are absent. The airboxes have acted like a great 'pizza-oven' to allow fires to really take hold like a small inferno before the driver is even aware, and thus they aren't easy to put out once started. I had once asked a man many years ago: "How do you prevent a Miura carb fire?". He replied: "Take the effin' airboxes off!". His name was Wallace. Bob Wallace.

    BTW, JCR is incorrect when he states that the trumpets are for the concours lawn. Not in my case. At least not with my current "4884". There is no better place for your carbs to inhale blades of grass, grit & dust than a concours field. Some concours feilds are the dustiest, dirtiest, places your car will ever traverse upon, bar none. This year we have shown "4884" twice. Both times with the airboxes firmly ON. The Judges liked that too, if you go by the results!

    Here are some pics with the way "4884" is today...
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    Joe, I recall a gorgeous in-house restored Miura (might have been an SV) from the late 80's..early 90's ?? in Martinez, CA. I don't remember the establishment's name, but an older brick building in old Martinez doing some spectacular restorations on all kinda cars. The Miura was a deep black with gold rockers and wheels if I remember correctly, it was stunning...do you know of it?
    ps..if I am not mistaken the owners were selling at the top of the over-inflated market at the time...$400K+?? and purchasing a resort in Tahiti...I love these old stories, but this is exactly how I remember it!
     
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    #4917 bax, Oct 1, 2008
    Nice shots - thank-you - I wasn't trying to make a point as many do on these forums - but was just askin' do you see significant bore wear on a trumpeted car or any other major failures due to ingress of foreign objects - low flying geese etc?

    The fuel line return mod from the carbs also prevents fires effectively; No?

    Bax.
     
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    JCR as I stated above, one close look at the car at the end of the concours day and you'll realize that the wind and people treading around both conspire to turn the surroundings into a small dust & grit mist which settles into every crevice of the car. The hood is often open for display or judging, so I wouldn't consider showing this car on a concours lawn without the airboxes on...
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    LOL. Good memory!

    That was 4882 when owned by Kai Norton....
     
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    You are right though - if you drove it in all kinds of conditions without 'boxes the engine would indeed have a shorter life. Perhaps not by much, but it would. Say the difference between a rebuild after 30,000 coming 5,000 miles early. BTW dont let Wallace frighten you - properly looked after Ive seen these units go for ages, not just 20,000 miles. SCCA racer Anatoly Arutunoff told me personally he collected his car at the port in 1968 and the same day saw an indicated 175 mph (meaning he didnt baby it!) and he never did ANYTHING to the engine till he sold it at 75,000 km. Of course it was his daily-driver, so maybe thats the secret!

    Yep I swear by the fuel return line. "Essential!" says Zampolli. One reason I love the USA-spec SVs: they come standard with triple fuel return lines factory-installed :)





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    This weekend 24 Ferraris of the Slavic collection will be displayed at Geneva Classics at Palexpo the first and only time.
    www.geneva-classics.ch
     
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    #4922 joe sackey, Oct 1, 2008
    The ONLY time? What if he want to do it again?

    Pics please...
     
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    #4923 raymondQV, Oct 2, 2008
    There is an interview in the automobile-newspaper www.automobilrevue.ch, there he said himself that the collection will not be shown in public and this will be the first and only time he wil present some cars in public.
    The homepage was a gift of his wife for his 60th birthday.
     
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    #4924 joe sackey, Oct 2, 2008
    Thanks for that Raymond.
     
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    There is a superb article about Jean-Pierre Slavic's collection with many pictures and an interview in the first issue (May 2008) of the french edition of Classic and Sportscars. Truly an amazing collection among which are two Lambos.
    Worth seeing.
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