Will Ferrari eventually stop selling manual transmissions?

This has been discussed to death in several massive huge threads. Try a search and you'll have hours of reading.

 

I doubt it. F factor both into the design. It's not a big deal that they offer it for the purists. On the super cars they'll probably continue with paddles only.

 

When new car buyers want stick shifts Ferrari will build them. But when 70+% are ordered as F1 and the only shortage of sticks is in the used market Ferrari will continue to build F1's.

Do you really believe when people stay away from the showroom in droves and no one is buying cars because they are all F1's Ferrari will demand you buy an F1?


And yes this topic has been covered to death.

 

I've been waiting for a 6spd for a long time. Have been offered an F1. Buying a new Ferrari the way I want has been a long time dream and I want a six speed. My order has been forwarded to FNA. Still waiting. If I'd take an F1 I'd have it by now.

 

Ferrari is a performance car, and you can't argue with the fact that the F1 is a higher performance transmission... Yes, they will continue to offer the manual trans in their "lower end" cars but you'll never see it in their Enzo Supercar.

As for the eventual elimination of the manual....I would think they will offer it as much as buyers request it, which for 430 production was very minimal. Don't know exact numbers, but rumored at less then 10% of production?

 

So don't buy either.......They will get the message.

Toyota will stop building boring appliance like cars when people quit buying boring appliance like cars but so far there is no shortage of people willing to buy the boring Toyota or the F1 Ferrari.

25 years ago I asked our dealer sales manager why all the cars we got were red/tan. He told me if he had black and someone wanted red it was no sale. If he had red and someone wanted black he could always talk the guy into red.

If people quit getting talked into it it just won't happen. Ferrari will build what the dealers order but the dealers KNOW they can sell F1's.

 

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Probably because most of us don't want to rehash the same old topic, time after time after time after time..........

 

You almost answered your own question

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Ya got -so- sick of that in just one month? Must be that teenage attention span. Read more, type less...

 

IMO, manual shifting of the gears is a part of the experiance of driving a car, Ferrari or otherwise.....

Paddle... while "cool" does not connect you with the car and is IMO akin to playing a video game.

Mark my words.....35-40 years from now all fly-by-wire cars will be junked to support the manual trans cars......

 

I have to agree with the original post in regards to the immediate "use search function" response.... He is opening a thought for discussion, if you don't want to reply, don't...it will die and be forgotten about.

 

Yes, I hear 10% but that is not because only 10% of folks wanted them, it's because Ferrari would only allocate 10% of production towards them. We don't know the true desire for a 6 speed.

I believe Ferrari will eventually offer only a paddle shifter (not F1 though; they will likely move to DSG type gearbox), not because of consumer demand but because it adds to their bottom line. Just like they did with the carbon brakes on the 430.

 

Most new Ferrari's are ordered to customer specs.... if the buyer wanted a 6 speed they would have ordered it. The fact that they didn't, means they didn't want it (or are concerned about resale?)

The F1 isn't a huge money maker for Ferrari...the carbon brakes are, and clearly people were not ordering them, and in order to get rid of inventory, they made them standard...thats a good way to screw the customer! Then again, Chevy offers an auto/manual trans on the Vette at the same price...so they are making more money clearing selling one model versus another-

 

Actually, all new Ferrari's are ordered to customer specs.

Except that 6-speed and F1 allocations are separate and a customer cannot just order a 6-speed. They have to wait for their dealer (their local dealer, mind you) to get a 6 speed allocation from Ferrari SpA.

 

My guess, uneducated and from the sidelines, is that indeed Ferrari makes as much on the carbon brakes as the F1. The carbon brakes are mostly outsourced pieces whereas isn't the F1 mostly in-house?

 

How on earth does it add to the bottom line? They could easily write off the F1, offer the cheaper manual at the same price as the F1 and be money ahead.

You and every other F1 conspiracy theorist is suffering from a serious case of paranoia.

Ferrari will build what people will buy and right now that is the F1 equipped car.

Relax the world is not coming to an end.

 

F1 is made and owned by Magnetti Marelli.

None of it is in house.

 

There is considerable lead time in the product planning and subcontractors need to be told far in advance how many units are going to be needed. It is based on previous years sales, feed back from dealers and distributors on anticipated orders and guess work. If they plan in advance for a 20/80 split on information available that is pretty much what they are stuck with building.

Expensive components are not bought in excess of anticipated production needs so there is very little flexibility in making changes once orders for subcontracted parts are made. That means allocations.

 

I have a 6-spd manual '08 430. Do you now who makes the manual transmission for Ferrari? Thanks, and it's great to have you back on the forum.

As far as answering the original poster's question, I think no one knows for sure if Ferrari is going to stop making manual trannys for their cars. I hope they continue because obviously I like shifting gears myself, although the shifter is not as smooth or easy as my previous manual transmission cars. All I know is that with the dual clutch trannys coming out in the California, it will soon render the F1 obsolete. I simply feel if you're not going to track the car a manual tranny will be more fun to drive around town, but the F1 is surely more advantageous on the racetrack.

 

Americans dont like manual trannys unlike our European counterparts so since America is Ferraris largest market ie more F1s...same happened to Porsche when they introduced the auto...it opened the market to more potential customers...

Second, manuals will disaapear period in the near future because F1 style trannys are the best of both world: more efficient plus lower maintainence cost with the use of a clutch...Now that this style tranny is in big trucks, the end is coming very fast...

one day we will talk about manual trannys like we do with column shifters, Model T front engine handle cranks or 8 track players

 

Really? My passport and my car beg to differ.

You might be right about this one though. Will be a sad day and guess I'll look to move to a Euro country then.

 

This was covered in another thread.