P 4/5 Won't recognise keys??

Jim,

You are not cutting corners by purchasing P 4/5 replica keys on Ebay are ya????

 

If this is a ferrari factory system isn't there a code with the pin to do position 1/2 on/off code so that the key will be recognised? Also can't you reprogram the black fobs with the red master?

 

Is it possible that interference from a cell phone, iPod, or another frequency could have caused the key fobs to become inoperable? I doubt this is the cause but I have heard of cases where key fobs were not recognized and the reasons were what I listed above.

 

Change the batteries in the remotes. If that does not work, change the battery in the car. Lots of weird electrons flowing around now. Related to the stock market, I think.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

This happened to me in my P4/5 recently and I ......... ----Hope you get it figured out soon Jim..

 

I'm thinking...Lemon Law the vehicle.

 

Jim:

Since the car is home, safe in the garage why don't you turn the battery off for several hours and then try the key(s) again. Sometimes it takes a while to completely "reset" the EEPROMs in the ECU. It probably will not make any difference, but what do you have to loose? Since it's BOTH keys, it is definitely an ECU-mediated recognition problem. Unfortunately, you are going to, in all probability, be forced to have the ECU reprogrammed to re-recognize the keys. BTW, both keys were not exposed to any type of strong magnetic field or electrical pulse, were they? I hope this does not cause you too much difficulty. Best of luck!

Take care,

Scott

P.S. If the car becomes just too problematic to manage, I'll do you a favor and take it off your hands. LOL

 

What an AWESOME car!! i love it, i want it, i need it............... NOW!!!

hope you get your problem solved Jim.

 

I had a similar problem in my CS which was due to low battery charge - it locked the doors because the charge went below a certain level and it thought it was being stolen. We needed to break into my car with a jimmy since the key wouldn't even open the door since it was "double locked". A new battery cured the problem. Of course maybe unrelated but I'd support the recharge/new battery, plus recycle the power again.

Good luck!

 

Dear Ferraristi,

Maybe you should just drive an original P4. No stupid electronic crap there.

....I'm sure you have one in your collection.

I'm surprised that a Ferrari service vehicle with onboard computers didn't already show up at your home. At a certain level of purchasing and servicing....you deserve no less.

Shamile

Freeze...Miami Vice !

 

The code card is your pin. In lesser Ferraris you can start the car by using the pin if your fob is not recognised. Your WSM or owners manual has the process. In lesser Ferraris an example of how to use the pin is:
key in ignition let sit for 20 seconds
lets say your code is 234
turn key from off=position 0 to on=position 2 (not start) for 2 cycles then let key sit in position 0 for between 2-10 seconds
then turn key on/off like above for 3 cycles then let sit for 2-10 secs
then turn key on/off like above for 4 cycles then let sit for 2-10 secs then turn key and start the car

I hope that works.

I'm going to start a thread on how to get rid of Ferrari integrated ECU alarms in another thread

 

fatbillybob- That would be a great service. System scares me to death, especially with only one black fob.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Jim:

I'm not sure if there are replaceable batteries in the Enzo keys. if you hold the key by the blade with the Cavallino Rampante shield facing you, down in the lower right-hand corner (i.e., right-side bottom surface, near the key blade), you'll see a small indentation. Take a thin-blade screwdriver (or you can use the Sterling Silver keychain tag) and gently pry the covers apart. Once open, you'll be able to ascertain whether there are replaceable batteries. That being said, if BOTH keys are not working, the probability of the lack of key code recognition it being caused from a "low" battery condition, IMO, is minimal. I think this is an ECU-mediated recognition problem. One other thought, does the Enzo factory alarm have a battery back-up module for the ECU? Sometimes, if these batteries go dead, the alarm ECU looses its ability to recognize the key code. Also, as our "Stooge" FFB stated, in our "mere mortal" Ferraris (e.g., F355) we can enter the key code into the alarm system by turning the ignition key in a specified manner to manually enter the key code. Does the Enzo alarm have that ability, also? I would think it does if they provide a key code card. Give FFBs procedure a try, but do it slowly and deliberately. It can be a little temperamental.

Again, best of luck,


Scott

 

Thanks Buddy! I just spent over $700.00 to get a set of 3 remotes and a new alarm key code! LOL BTW, that really would be another great service to the Ferrari community. You're a really good man, FBB!

 

I'll give you $100 USD for it

 

Do you think that V12 will fit in my Mustang?

 

silly question perhaps, but would there not be some sort of ecu fault code set in the system memory? i know nothing of enzo computer systems, but i do work with high end avionics at work, and it seems there would be some sort of code set for diagnostics.

is there a way to scan the system to see if there are any hard fail fault codes?

i hope it works out for you without too much more fuss.

M

 

Jim- An LS-7 weighs about the same as the V-12, but the soundtrack will be disappointing in comparison. Have you posted photos of the car? At first I thought you were kidding and then it dawned on me you really did have a P4/5 that would not start. Even just as sculpture, the cars are breath-taking.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Most likely it lost the code when the power was shut down, I have seen it happen on some that were left and the battery died. you should be able to re-sync the remotes to the ecu.

Try holding the unlock button for more than 30 seconds and watch the alarm led on the dash and see if there is a change in the flashing. if it does not work, you will have to relearn it manually and you will need the key code for that (white 3x5 paper in with the books). I can give you the procedure if you need.

Best regards, Jim

 

Jim- One of the more knowledgable chatters told me via PM (thanks) you have the only P4/5 in the world. When I grow up (probably will never happen), I want to be just like you.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

What an inappropriate thing to say before my dear friend 'Napolis surprises me by sending the key-psake as a Christmas present!