College Football 2008

Just imagine if some of these SEC teams played most or all of their games against out-of-conference teams. Every year, SEC teams beat the hell out of each other because they always play each other, and when one of them gets to the National Championship, they walk through it. The fact the some people still haven't realized the SEC is the premiere NCAA football conference just baffles me.

 

I dunno man. I personally think Penn State's better than 'Bama this season, thus far. I've watched most of their games. Scheduling is one thing, but it's also how you play a complete game, and they have done marvelously this season. So no need to be so obstinate & closed-minded. Seriously, unless all you've done is look at the final scores on ESPN and then at the opponents ranking(s), or at times there lackoff, you really have no predilection to even comment further. Saying "just because so" is a pointless way to argue your point. Be a bit more astute & analytical, otherwise your totally pissin' on a very good thread. Seriously.

In that regards, I can say Texas is over-rated arse as well. I've been on the field during games, I work some of the practices/workout-sessions, and I'm in the loop w/ some of the staff/admin'/consultants/trainers (not of my own desire). This season's Longhorns team is really a house-of-cards, so to speak. I mean I'd love to say my current home-town's school is all this & that. But, truth be told, they aren't. Oklahoma's a better team. I really consider this season an over-achievement thus far. The players lack discipline, mental-toughness, conditioning is poor, focus is lacking, and game-plans are complete. A lot more bad things I can say about the players in-detail, but why bother- it's not my place. And I've been around 'SC/PennState/Pitt/Miami programs rather intimately, so I know a lil' bit of what D1 football is all about. Also, Mack is lost, aloof, and distant from the program. He's just good for booster-brunches, legislative tours, and recruiting phone-calls/video-conferencing.

If none of this was true, I wouldn't be saying it. Trust me, I want a midnight-parade around the Texas tower in January, ending at 6th St. Just look at my location...

Are you referring to the NFL or BCS Bowl games? The former, I kinda/sorta may agree w/ you, but not entirely. Carson Palmer is a potential year-in/year-out all-pro on a horridly coached team. Reggie Bush was hyped too much, but he's still a high-caliber player. LenDale White is a consistent force, a 'lock for the end-zone when inside the 10, and so forth. Matt Leinert is a solid starter w/ prolific stats' if/when healthy (and not in jacuzzi's w/ coeds; not to mentione AZ is a NFL graveyard on par w/ Detroit & Oakland). Troy Polmalu is a solid/consistent hard-nosed safety, perhaps amongst the top. And of-course numerous other linemen/linebackers/etc'. Yes, 'SC receivers have flaked-out on the pro's; then again, so do many all-conference/all-NCAA flankers/wide-outs from big-name programs. QB's/WR's from college to pro's are generally casualties, if highly heralded.

If you're referring to BCS Bowl games and/or National Championships, 'SC is unbeatable in January. So, I'm a bit amiss w/ your comment.

Try to be a bit objective man, your crapping on this thread really takes the fun out of it.

Hmmm, that's known as parity my friend. How is that any different than the Big(L)East in which everyone basically beats everyone? They send many boys into the NFL, too, so you can't say they aren't good or whatever. The only difference is they don't have the tradition/history/pageantry that some more historical SEC schools may have in terms of college-football. I do understand your point, slightly. But your logic is faulty. Just because an SEC team was the t1ts back in the dixie-days of the 'South, doesn't mean they should command the same respect/homage nowadays from past exploits & laurels. That-is, unless you're Notre Dame rolleyes. . .

This is one of the main endeavors I like of the BCS this day-&-age... entering every season, ANY team from the 6 BCS conferences can play for it all in January, provided they win-out, period. Back in the day, some of lesser acclaimed schools of major conferences would be shorted big-time just because of 'Bamas legacy, Michigan's hey-days, Nebraska's nostalgic times, and so forth.

I hope you understand the point I am trying to make. 12/13 games & 60 minutes, period. Doesn't matter if Bear Bryant, Darrell Royal, or whoever walked down the tunnel back way-when (again, unless you're Notre Dame ).



Anywayz... let's keep this thread clean/classy/respectful & full of positive comments/etc'. I mean some jib-jab posts & occasional 'hooks at a team/conference is alrite, but at least do it in jest & w/ some insight. Bustin' balls is great, but bein' bold/arrogant w/ baseless rhetoric & biased closed-mindedness/preconceived-notions w/o merit is just lame. It's just a smidgen above 'my dad can beat-up your dad' or such. I expect more/better from this community of classy individuals. And before someone is like who da' fugh is this 'cat, etc'. I had well over 4-digits of posts w/ my previous account many years ago, I was actually amongst the first few F-chat peeps' at the forums inception, and I actually know Rob unlike 99% of you. So, ~100 posts on my current 'handle is more indicative of another matter, not of actual sincerity/fondness/interaction when it comes to this forum.


With all that said, 'SC & Florida are awesome. 'Bama & PennState are solid/poised/disciplined. Oklahoma is diesel, and will hurt their remaining opponents, I think. After Thanksgiving, when some of the dust has & settled, perhaps I can be more sure of who is all that & then some (in terms of actual body of work, not just my inkling & obvious personal preference/objective-insight). . .


Go PITT!

 

Most likely he is referring to the 2005 miraculous defeat by Vince Young. It's a bit short sighted, but his posts have seemed to indicate that he just started watching college football in the past few years.

Cheers.

 

Florida does not lose the difficult games. They lose the games where they feel superior and overlook the focus on the opponent. My guess is a loss to FSU, but it could be SC.
GO CANES!
BT

 

The SEC has a worse out of conference game winning percentage than a few other conference so far this year. Even with the bias towards playing the worst out of conference teams available (on the average), they have not won more than the Big XII. So while your perception is that they are better than other conferences, the statistics do not favor this view this year. As an example, SEC's newest powerhouse (Vandy) lost recently to Duke! Other than the loss to Ole Miss, Florida's closest game was to bitter rival Miami (who is not the greatest this year).
It is always cyclical, no conference has been dominant for more than 2-3 years in a row.
BT

 

I'm pretty sure now that they have a shot (again) this won't be the case. Next test is SC, if we blow them out it's all downhill from there.

 

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions

PSU v. Florida would be a great match-up.

 

I would guess that UF would have way too much speed for PSU to keep up. USC / Florida would be a better game IMHO. I don't think you can deny an undefeated team a shot at the championship if there are 1 or 2 undefeated teams at the end of the regular season.
BT

 

I know it's days out, but I still want to know McCoy's logic behind a run play when YOU"RE IN THE FRIGGIN END ZONE!!!!?

 

Hot off the wire--Phil Fulmer won't be back at Tennessee.

 

Yeah this is what most Gators are thinking, that JoePa will play if they go undefeated, he got screwed about 15 years ago and I don't see that happening again. Based on schedule it looks like it will be either the Gators or Bama playing somebody else for the NC. We clinched the SEC East Saturday, I don't think they've clinched yet. Best scenario is Bama wins out and we beat them in the SEC Championship Game, whoever wins it will be the favorite in the title race.

I was rooting for Texas Tech big time Saturday night, that was a hell of a game.

Who was it on here saying the SEC was weak? How does it look now?

 

I say the SEC is not the top conference this year. It is expected that most SEC fans would be blind to the strengths of the Big XII, that is part of being a fan.
Jeff Sagarin's computers say that the SEC is not the strongest. Sagarin computers conference ranking goes (as of Nov. 2):
Big XII
SEC
ACC
Big 10
Big East
Pac 10

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc08.htm
Not weak, but not the best!

BT

 

Since when did LSU drop out of the polls?

 

Nah it wasn't you, somebody else posted some negative stuff about the SEC. Big 12 is probably stronger than the SEC this year at least the Big 12 South. North ain't doing so hot In the SEC, LSU and TN are down, Georgia is playing like they always do, Richt probably only has a year or so left before he's ousted. Alabama has been a huge surprise and even though the Gators lost to the Rebels we're strong. Would like to see UF go undefeated at least once in my lifetime. If they don't win the NC this year I think the team will be largely intact and will be downright scary in 2009, but I am hoping we win it this year.

 

Florida has no worries at this point. If they don't get to play for the NC this year, then next year or the one after would be likely. The biggest worry is in a few years when Urban Meyer decides to try out the NFL getting a good coach. But that should not be difficult for a very successful school with a load of talent and plenty of meny to spend.
It is fun when your school only competes against themselves to see if they can live up to their obvious potential!
BT

 

I still go back to my earlier comments on this topic. Until we get to the end of the year, you can't tell which the best conference is, and ratings like Sagarin's prove it (at least in my mind ). The alignment of power in the Big 12 plays right into Sagarin's ratings. Five of the top 6 power teams are from the south, and they are only beginning to play each other. Combine that with the fact that his ratings give the most weight to the teams in the middle of the pack, you end up with the second tier South teams that haven't taken the hit of multiple in division losses, and the better teams from the north making up the 'meat' of Sagarin's ratings. The SEC on the other hand, is split evenly with three teams from each division in the top and bottom six of the conference.

Having said all that, I still don't even like his ratings. As an example of why, I direct you to Auburn and Arkansas. Identical records, but Arkansas beat Auburn.

Other pertinent stats: Arkansas Auburn
Defeats v. Top10 Teams 3 0
Defeats v. Top30 Teams 4 2
Strength of Schedule Rank 4 41

Can anyone tell me how these two teams come out as #61 and #63 (with that Football powerhouse Richmond between them) in those rankings? Pretty clear to me which team is significantly better...

At the end of the year, it will likely be very clear which conference is best - and until then, its anyone's guess.

 

Meyer's a college coach, I doubt he'll even get a sniff. The Dolphins only use the Wildcat a few plays a game, it just doesn't work in the NFL.

I'm hearing rumors that Tennessee offered Spurrier their job.

 

I'd like to be playing well enough to get a mercy ranking.

 

At least we don't have to play you at night...

I'll take any help I can get at this point

 

+1

 

Have you seen this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etxyNsPdb3M

 

Yep. One of the funnier things I've seen.

 

This is why the SEC is the best conference in football. 150-51 with a national champtionship isn't good enough.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3679810