Source for CIS fuel line "separators"?

I'm in the middle of doing a CIS injection fuel line replacement (using Verell's kit, which is spot-on and invaluable for this work) and I see that I will need to replace all of the plastic fuel line "separators" (for lack of a better term).

It's those little plastic 'thingies' that holds a bundle of the individual fuel lines together neatly. They are clipped onto the steel portions of the individual fuel lines which lead to the injectors, and are located at either end as well as various places in between the fuel distributor and the injectors. I have several which hold four (4) lines, and others which hold two (2) lines.

Years of heat have rendered the plastic material brittle, and when I remove the old fuel lines from the "separators", they simply break.

Armed with the correct Ferrari part numbers, I have checked the various well known suppliers, only to find that they are apparently NLA. Several vendors do have a version of the 'separators' which hold three (3) fuel lines, which is odd since I have not yet discovered any of this flavor on my car. (I suppose that I could always get some of these and cut off one of the 'holders' so to satisfy the requirement for the two (2) line version, but that still leaves the four (4) line version to be located).

Anyone know where these can be found? Seems that these could perhaps be items that another CIS car might also use, and not be Ferrari-specific?

I'd rather not have to resort to tying the lines together using a zip-tie.

Thanks and Cheers - DM

 

If you review the original post, you will see that I already checked with the usual suspects, which included Ricambi (plus others that you would recognize) thru their website.

For the record, here’s the gory details:

TAV shows three (3) part numbers for these items:

a) 115595 – 4 tube version
b) 113896 – 3 tube version
c) 115418 – 4 tube version (apparently a different version than a) above)

TAV does not show a 2 tube version, but I have several of these which require replacement.

Ricambi website when searched on the above numbers:

a) Ricambi shows an incorrect 3 tube version for this number
b) Ricambi apparently has this (same as a) above) but I don’t see any need for a 3 tube part on my car. I could perhaps cut this to make a 2 tube version if I had to do so.
c) Ricambi shows NLA

And I appear not to be able to contact Ferrari U.K. parts any longer thru the factory website.

Thus the reason for the original posting!

Cheers - DM

 

Absolutely, good idea!

This is a need for any one who is using Verell's CIS tubing kit, so there's a complimentary built-in market for them!

Me, I need several in the 4-in-a-square style, as well as the 2-in-a-line style.

Steve's comments about the 3-in-a-line style being TR specific makes perfect sense, as I couldn't see how this odd number could work with a V-8.

Do any German CIS cars of the same era have something like this which could be used as an alternative? Hard to believe that it's a Ferrari specific item!

Cheers - DM

 

Since I’m the fellow who originally brought this subject up, thought I’d report back on my findings.

After my own thorough (i.e., world wide) vendor search, I have confirmed to my own satisfaction what the other posters above had already indicated. For reasons which are not obvious to me, the only separators which appear to be available today seem to be the 3-in-a-row style per the pictures below. Odd, this.

And, indeed as noted, you therefore have to use these 3-in-a-row ones as a DIY starting point, taking a pair of them, cutting off the end tube holder on each, and gluing them back-to-back to yield the desired 4-in-a-square style (as one example).

I continue to suspect that, at least initially back in the day, the other configurations which were used on our cars, such as 2-in-a-row, 4-in-a-row, and 4-in-a-square (might be some others, too) were not Ferrari specific items. Someone who is familiar with other CIS cars of this era could perhaps locate a current supplier for these other styles by doing a similar search on other makes of the era?

If any one else reading this is familiar with other CIS equipped cars and knows of a cross-over for the other tubing configurations, please let us all know!

Thanks and Cheers - DM
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Agreed! Please keep us all posted on this one.

In the mean time, I tried to glue a pair of 2-in-a-row clips back to back to end up with a 4-in-a-square one, but the adhesive that I used (generic Super Glue) does not bond to the material (nylon?) of the clamps. Anyone have any ideas of a way to make this idea work?

Cheers - DM

P.S. - Is anyone familiar enough with any old German CIS cars - Mercedes, Audi, whoever - that might also be using this part? Far better to buy if available thru those folks than to re-invent the wheel!

 

So, here's about 3000 word's worth of pictures of the single used 4-in-a-square separator which I was finally able to locate, after much more effort than this lil' detail part should be worth!

I need at least two (2) more of these 4-in-a-square separators, but am interested in purchasing several additional ones for spares.

As noted above, my efforts to make up a DIY version of these using a pair of two-in-a-row separators (made by cutting off the end piece of the readily available 3-in-a-row version) glued back-to-back has failed due to an inability to make the adhesive work. So, we're all sort of back to Square One.

Does -anyone- ever recall having seen these being used on any other car?

Cheers - DM
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Can any of our "adhesive guys" recommend a glue which could be used to adhere a pair of 2-in-a-row nylon separators back-to-back?

Cheers - DM

 

Verell - Any news / updates?

Seems that these would be a natural complimentary item to offer along with your CIS tubing re-do kits!

Thanks and Cheers - DM