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  1. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    i think, if he had stayed beyond 2005, he would have whooped Kimi's @$$ and be a double world champion by now. problem was, he thought he could develop cars and make them to the standard of Ferrari.

    i would say, if i was the bosses of Honda, i would definitely offer Rubens a final year contract for next season. Ross is convinced that the car will land podiums, lets see what he can do with that.
     
  2. gsjohnson

    gsjohnson Formula 3

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    Exactly. To take it a step further, where would Ruben's career have gone if he hadn't signed with Ferrari? He got payed 12 mil a year to take a knee and he knew full well what the rules were. Where do I sign up at?
     
  3. MBFerrari

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    LOL, you guys have all had some really good takes, and as an RB fan, couldn't agree more with much of what you said. I am interested in reading his book. I read his first one and I learned a LOT about how things go on behind the scenes in F1, and let me tell you, it ain't pretty.

    If he comes out with a bunch of garbage, so be it, but let's see what the book says before we make a final judgement.
    MB
     
  4. tifosi12

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    What's the title of his first book?
     
  5. kraftwerk

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    How to make a fortune playing 2nd fiddle..;)
     
  6. tifosi12

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    That was actually Irvine's book. :)
     
  7. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Yep, he played a clear 2nd fiddle driver, and didn't care.
     
  8. tifosi12

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    ...and became like the 3rd richest driver in F1 history.
     
  9. dretceterini

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    I don't think Rubens has much to be angry about. He knew the situation at Ferrari, and was well paid. He was never a #1 driver, but he was a pretty good #2 at Ferrari...
     
  10. parkerfe

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    I fail to see where wanting to write a "tell all" book makes him bitter...
     
  11. LightGuy

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    So is Massa. Look how far being #2 at Ferrari got him but for 1 point. I consider RB and FM to be about equal talent-wise.
     
  12. LightGuy

    LightGuy Four Time F1 World Champ
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    One of the problems with success is that one begins to believe it was ME who did it all. Not the circumstances or effort put forth by others but ME. Therefore I can go somewhere else and replicate it. It happens to a lot of people who are successful in one area and go to the next with the same expectations only to be met with failure. But at least he took the leap. Got to give him credit there.
     
  13. Remy Zero

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    like i said...i think he had the talent, and the commitment to be WDC. if only he had the patience to remain in Ferrari, he would definitely be the 2007 & 2008 WDC now.
     
  14. sindo308qv

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    In response, it makes him bitter and look like an ass because
    but for a few shining moments, he couldn't match Schumacher
    in anyway. Did you ever see Schumacher ***** and complain
    when things were screwed up by the team? I'm sure behind
    the scenes he set everyone straight,but you don't air your
    dirty laundry.Irvine did all he could to come up to and learn as
    much as he could from Schumacher.He couldn't match him and just did the best
    he could for himself and the team. Barrichello would always
    complain after a race about the car, the strategy,everything
    but himself. Did what was done at Austria suck? Yes, but
    what if Michael had lost by the points he gained there?As you
    can see with recent races,every point counts.I think on some level
    he really bought into and felt the pressure of being the next Senna,
    instead of being himself.
     
  15. It's Ross

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    I'd love it.
    I also like RB, he was a dope to join Honda. What sort of Honda do you think he'll pick for a retirement gift? Eww.
     
  16. Whisky

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    I would like to say Senna and Prost, the difference is, during MS's years at Ferrari, the gap after Ferrari and McLaren was HUGE, the difference between McLaren in the 80's and everyone else was nowhere near as huge.
     
  17. sindo308qv

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    They'll probably give him a special Senna NSX they have in storage
    as a retirement gift.
     
  18. aquapuss

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    Barrichello was a mediocre driver at his best. He just looked good because he had such a superior car at Ferrari. A car developed by Schumacher. Mika Salo was faster and had more talent than RB. RB should be grateful to Schumacher for his longevity in F1 and his fortune. Hopefully RB's book will accurately reveal that he was never winning material.
     
  19. MBFerrari

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    Interesting that many of you claim that other drivers such as (truly bitter and loudmouth Eddie Irvine) were better than RB, but unfortunately the numbers don't back up your case. The same argument you use to say that RB should be thankful to MS for "providing him" a great car at Ferrari, I will use back at you by saying that Obviously Ferrari were happy with RB for a long time, and the last time I checked RB has more constructor championships with his name listed on them than Salo, or am I incorrect there?

    My point is, no matter how much MS did (and he did do a ton) to make Ferrari what it was, RB certainly helped as well, at least enough to Have the powers that be at Ferrari want to keep him onboard for many years...

    Thoughts?

    MB
     
  20. aquapuss

    aquapuss Formula 3

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    Yes, he appeared to be the perfect wingman at the time. But now it is suddenly sour grapes from RB...
     
  21. Remy Zero

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    don't forget, with Rubens on board, MS won 5 titles there. it's all about team work, Rubens played his part in there as well. 30 years down the road, he's gonna be remembered as part of the Schumacher-Brawn-Todt-Bryne team.

    i seriously don't understand why the sour grapes now. a sign that this was his final season?
     
  22. Gilles27

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    That, and this comes back to the basic point that RB's arrangement at Ferrari was never billed as anything more than what it was, as far as us ignorant public folk know.
     
  23. tifosi12

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    You realize that Irvine came within 2 points of winning the title whereas Rubens was always 30+ points away?
     
  24. robert_c

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    I hear Risi needs a driver.
     
  25. MBFerrari

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    All time wins:
    RB = 9
    Irvine = 4

    All time poles:
    RB = 13
    Irvine = oops, can't find any

    All time Podiums:
    RB = 62
    Irvine = 26

    All time points:
    RB = 530
    Irvine = 191

    Fastest Laps:
    RB = 15
    Irvine = 1

    I could go on here, but let's not get confused. RB was not even close to MS, but he put Irvine in the outhouse. When they competed in the same races he kicked Irvine's arse. Not even close. Most importantly Driver's championships = they both have none. Irvine may have been close, but wasn't that the year MS broke his leg and wasn't around in the hunt? Someone help me out here...
     

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