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Your thoughts on a brokers behavior.

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Arvin Grajau, Jan 2, 2009.

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  1. Mrpbody44

    Mrpbody44 F1 Veteran

    Jul 5, 2007
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    The idea has been floating around the Amateur Radio Operater community for a while now (with regard to vintage radio equipment), and it's a VERY simple simply have a letter address to the executor of the estate (or your spouse as the case may be) outlining a rough estimate of the current market value. Update this every two years or so, and include a list of resources for each major item where one can find more up to date information/consultation.

    In the art world most insurance companies are now requiring a detailed USPAP compliant appraisal of the complete collection. I tell my clients to give their estate attorney a copy to keep with their will. I have had a couple of instances where a couple passed away together in an accident and the heirs had no idea that there was a $10,000,000 art collection.
     
  2. Kaivball

    Kaivball Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Why is it fraud? Value and price is in the eye of the beholder. If the cars are legally sold, it's not theft.

    As many other posters said, it's the responsibility of the owner to figure out how to ensure proper handling/disposal of his assets. Create a will, a living trust, care taker, etc, etc. Nobody is forcing the surviving party to sell. A low ball offer is not fraud. It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

    Kai
     
  3. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    you are totally wrong, in one instance you have the option to buy with an open mind, the other is where someone KNOWs the value and that confusion is possible and is looking for the opportunity to "steal" the car from a grieving person

    Also, it's NOT slave labour if they are getting paid !!!
     
  4. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    #29 moretti, Jan 6, 2009
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    absolute BS !!!

    are you one of these criminals ??

    taking advantage of people in a confused and grieving state is irresponsible at best

    have you people no decency at all ?

    little money grubbing worms making money off other people's misfortune !!

    here is a small but poignant example :

    4 years ago I smashed my GT4 with the family on board
    while I was in hospital someone offered my wife $1000 for the wreck
    she asked me if that was a fair offer
    she said she would have gladly taken the offer if I hadn't have survived as it was one less thing for her to worry about

    I got $10k for the motor and gbox alone, she had NO idea what the parts were worth but some VULTURE swooped when he saw a chance to make a quick buck.

    Offering someone a fair price is fine, but lowballing unsuspecting people and thinking that is ok is a poor attitude and I hope I never meet you lot that think that is fine.

    Having been personally involved where someone was trying to "steal" money from my family does make me wild with the lowlife types
     
  5. Horsefly

    Horsefly F1 Veteran

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    They are getting paid a wage that would be illegal in the United States and working in conditions that would be illegal in the United States. Yet the goods that they make are being sold for TREMENDOUS profits IN THE UNITED STATES!!!

    Sounds like a playing field that is slanted 45 degrees in the direction of the profit mongers.
     
  6. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    see, your reasoning is wrong !!!

    they are paid a wage that is LEGAL in their country, not the US, and working in conditions that the workers agree to work in by THEIR standards , not YOURS

    Sure I agree their pay may "seem" low but taken in respect to the local prices of products it could well be that they are living well.

    Here's a close to home example :

    my counterpart in India is paid USD$60k, he lives like a king, he would be living just 'ok' in my country

    And there are plenty of people living in the US doing work for below the poverty line which your lot won't do ... I think you call them "illegal immigrants"

    Most companies are moving their operations off shore to China due to the "high wages" earnt by 1st world countries, what the global manipulaters are trying to do is drive down the wages of 1st world and make an homogenous workforce across the world.

    This profiteering is just the prelude to that homogenous workforce, maybe this depression is the second step ?

    what this has to do with vulture brokers though I have no idea, individual human lowlifes preying on grieving widows and distraught families are the manifestidly bad side of human nature, or maybe I was bought up to respect people and be fair in my dealings with them and is why I am so poor, relatively speaking ;)
     
  7. Fred2

    Fred2 F1 World Champ
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    Actually the Idiots in Congress who voted for open trade with China are responsible for the financial collapse here.
     
  8. switchcars

    switchcars Formula 3

    Jul 28, 2005
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    Read one of the stories above, where it was not the brokers, but the NEIGHBORS.

    PEOPLE are greedy and selfish, no matter what title is over their door.

    While we're at it let's start a thread entitled "Horror stories of what some of my customers have tried to pull off against a car dealer" or "Horror stories from Factory Authorized Franchised dealers."
     

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