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  1. billnoon

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    #101 billnoon, Jan 17, 2009
    According to one of David's people, the hammer price on the Talbo Lago was identical to the Christies 2005 sale three years ago. The only difference in price was that the former owner paid significantly higher commissions than Goodings fixed 10% at today's sale.

    Cheers,

    Bill
     
  2. Napolis

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    #102 Napolis, Jan 17, 2009
    I have 3.685 MM. Let's take the buyer who became a seller 2.5 years and a few miles later. Fee's both way and Taxes add?
    Net loss? I guess about 1MM. Price David got was good in a tough market but the tree is no longer growing to the sky even for VERY good cars. Look at the Clear Vision Duesy selling right now. 760K no Joy there.

    Regards!
     
  3. djaffrey

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    #103 djaffrey, Jan 17, 2009
    Bill

    Who are the callers I am watching on the internet stream and you in the room. Particularly who is the American chap reading the car details who keeps interrupting the rather splendid English auctioneer. His boss I presume ?
     
  4. elads

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    #104 elads, Jan 17, 2009
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    No sir im not.
    SCM data base:

    Talbot Lago 150SS chassis 90120 sold for 4.9 mio usd, Bonham's Carmel auction.

    This car Chassis #90105 sold for 3.5 mio usd at Christie's, Monterey, CA August 18, 2005.

    So we are back to 2005 prices. Seems logical given where other cars are changing hands.

    TZ at 400k, again confirms the re-basing to 2005 prices.


    Welcome to 2005.

    elad
     
  5. Napolis

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    #105 Napolis, Jan 17, 2009
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    Lusso 640K. Below reasonable low estimate.
     
  6. DF1

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    #106 DF1, Jan 17, 2009
    No rush to that price at all. 540k seemed like a group concensus for a while.
     
  7. Napolis

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    #107 Napolis, Jan 17, 2009
    What year was 90120 @ 4.9MM?

    Cheers
     
  8. billnoon

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    #108 billnoon, Jan 17, 2009
    Hi Jim,

    The Deusy was absolutely beautiful but under bidder next to me said the car might have some possible undisclosed issues which effected bidding.
     
  9. Tenney

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    #109 Tenney, Jan 17, 2009
    Then what happened? 2005 money.
     
  10. elads

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    #110 elads, Jan 17, 2009
    2008
     
  11. Napolis

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    #111 Napolis, Jan 17, 2009
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    A bit less than the 850K ask for the one in this weeks FML.

    The Multi award winning Daimler Double Six 2.45MM. A bit sad that. Best of Show Pebble Beach...

    "The 1999 Pebble Beach Concours d Elegance Best of Show Winning

    1932 Daimler 40/50 Double Six Sport Saloon"
     
  12. DF1

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    #112 DF1, Jan 17, 2009
    Agreed a bit sad. That was a beautiful machine - The Daimler.
     
  13. Napolis

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    #113 Napolis, Jan 17, 2009
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    Six months ago???

    4.9 to 3.5 in six months.
     
  14. DF1

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    #114 DF1, Jan 17, 2009
    Interesting to see what the Cuda next will bring
     
  15. geno berns

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    #115 geno berns, Jan 17, 2009
    Hi Bill,

    How good of a restoration on the Daytona? Seems like a great deal at $286K. The Lusso you sold at RM brought $550K I think. The Gooding Lusso brought an extra $154K. Were the cars that much different in quality?

    Gene.



     
  16. judge4re

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    #116 judge4re, Jan 17, 2009
    No sale.
     
  17. elads

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    #117 elads, Jan 17, 2009
    yes, August 2008.

    Some racing history - no real distinguished result.

    I would love the ex tommy lee car (the car just sold). Its ultra original.
     
  18. Napolis

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    #118 Napolis, Jan 17, 2009
    I agree that the Tommy Lee car is much more desirable and 1.4 MM less in only 6 months.
     
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    Isotta @ 990K

    Weak Sauce.
     
  20. DF1

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    Nice 8V. Smooth lines. Lusso-esque from the front.
     
  21. Napolis

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    #121 Napolis, Jan 17, 2009
    Not an issue with mine.

    :)
     
  22. Napolis

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    #122 Napolis, Jan 17, 2009
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    MM Car.

    750K another great car that No Sales.
     
  23. judge4re

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    #123 judge4re, Jan 17, 2009
    The chandelier has it's hand up a bit on that one...
     
  24. elads

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    #124 elads, Jan 17, 2009
    750k for the 8v was great money, either not real bid, or the seller is asleep.
    Either way, should have been sold!
     
  25. Napolis

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    #125 Napolis, Jan 17, 2009
    The Ford GT coming up is a total recreation not original car.

    Lincoln NS.
     
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