Are 360 headers an issue like on the 355?

Have 360 03 and no issues. Talked with many knowlegable indiv. and yes there is a issue , but it is small and invol. primarily the area of the pre cat which breaks down with heat. I believe the 99 cars do not have the pre cat.

 

Small issue = big problem.

Disintegration of the pre-cat inside the manifold is not for the faint of heart. I'll let those personally afflicted describe the damage... but I can safely confess we've sold plenty of replacement 'upstream' bits -- like pistons and liners when these fail.

This stuff doesn't sit on the shelf because I'm trying to build a museum. I have it because it sells (unfortunately)
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99 360 = no pre cats!

Most had the frame welded and strengthened to protect from cracking.


Cam-variator is easily checked thru maintenance records, they should also have had the upgraded left tensioner pulley added.

In the end, I would go with and did choose the '99 360 over a '99 355, both F1.


Robert

 

I own a late 2002 360 and it has had no issues whatsoever (I am in Europe, so no pre-cats! )

 

I've got an '01 Euro with no pre-cats.....doesn't seem to matter. With about 12,000 miles on the car my mechanic pointed-out that the heat-shield surrounding the manifold has some blue'ish discoloration in one tiny area, which indicates some exhaust gas is being applied to it...which means, yes; the manifold is starting to "go".

There is no correction, there were no upgrades and it's also just as prone to happening on the 430's equally as well. It's Ferrari's way of saying "Thanks for paying so much for our car. Yes, it has performance, style, pedigree and everything you'd expect for big money....but as a nice little shot to the nuts, we'll continue our passionate tradition of using shotty metal, weak material and thin walls on our exhaust manifolds....don't fix it, just buy a new car every 2 years!

So in conclusion....there are 2 types of 355, 360, 430 and other models: those who have had exhaust manifold issues, and those who WILL have exhaust manifold issues.

Before the dollar got diddly-weak, we could ship our OEM manifolds to the boys at Larini and they'd do some weld-job and put humpty-dumpty back together again...but I hear the cost of shipping and what-not just doesn't make that practical anymore, plus aftermarket companies have some more affordable and better alternatives nowadays.

Daniel...how 'bout you tell all us lucky contestants about our replacement & upgrade options we have? And let's not overlook the golden opportunity to replace those caked-up OEM cats with some performance high-flow cats as well....seeing as the manifolds are coming off, may as well throw some fun in that direction as well....no?

 

Unfortunately no. The sticky crud is also in the 360 on switches, vents, and small trim pieces throughout the interior.

 

How can you tell if you have a problem? SD3 diagnostic warnings or signs on visual examination or exhaust symptoms?

Thanks!

 

Thats why I bought a Power Warranty on my 03. Just did not want to be concerned about this stuff. Expensive but probably less expensive than a serious issue.

 

Are headers defintley covered under the Power Warranty, or only under the more expensive Power Cube Warranty (which is an extension of the new car warranty)?

TIA

 

Daniel is correct---I have refinished several 360 interior parts for customers....as well as 430 interior parts...

 

Yo Shack, long time no hear. How's things going with your 360? Best.

 

I just replaced the manifolds on my '06 f430.

 

Just confirmed with Ferrari Dealer (Ontario) that the manifold/header is covered by 8 years Emission (related) Warranty on top of the regular warranty even if there is no power warranty in place.

 

I remember reading here that not all states' 8 year emissions warranty include the header/manifold, just the catalytic converter. I understand that California emissions law includes both the cats and headers for the 8 years.

Maybe Ontario's emissions laws are similar to California's, but I don't think headers are included across the board. They really should be, though. If they're leaking, it is a source of emissions.

 

Hi Mate,

How are you. I am in Japan atm and its just brilliant here. Was reading about your friend in Sydney - Fantastic what u did. Let me know i you ever need it done in Melbourne.

360 is awesome. I have been having some great runs out this way.

Take Care
Regards
J

 

Hi - will check when I get back to Oz. Good point.

Regards
Shack

 

I won't clog up the thread Shack, PM sent.

BTW, enjoy the heated, wash and blow toilet seats in Japan!

 

Under the U.S. Federal Emissions Law, all Catalytic Converters and Engine ECUs are covered for 8 years or 80,000 miles, whichever comes first. So for all of the 360s with pre-cats built into the exhaust manifolds, they are covered, and must be replaced at no charge during this period.

Hope this helps.

 

For a 1999 & 2000 models the warranty is up now.

But what year 360 has the pre cats (and I assume all 430's?)?

 

Good point. 360 headers with built in pre-cats are likely covered. I have a 430 which, afaik, does not have a built in pre-cat.

 

I am thinking of buying a 360. should I just count on replacing the headers as part of the cost of purchase. Should I replace the headers as soon as I do my first service. Does fabspeed make 360 headers and is the cost reasonable? Should I look at a 99' specifically because of no precats?

 

Yes, We do have headers available for the F360. Fabspeed headers are a direct bolt-on high performance replacement header for the F360. Our headers are all T304 Stainless Steel with high velocity merge collectors.

Fabspeed Headers are $2,695 for the pair, and $300 if you would like us to ceramic coat.

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The fabspeed website said the headers are for model 2000-2005. Do the headers not work on the 99' model year?