Hello: After two years of looking and several false starts I finally took delivery (yesterday) of a 1984 Mondial QV. (Attached are a couple of photos.) The car has been discussed here before, but here's a quick summary: 1984 Mondial QV, European Model (No sunroof!) with 30k Kilometers. The Good: * Overall great physical condition. * Upgraded wheels. Haven't found the brand, however. * New AC. * Tubi Exhaust. This was not advertised. I even asked the seller what kind of exhaust was on the car (it was obviously not OEM) and he told me he didn't know. The Bad: * Needs belt service. * Needs all hoses replaced. (More on this later.) * Some electrical gremlins. Mostly bad switch contacts. I've already fixed a couple. * Gas struts for front and rear bonnets need rebuilt. * Rust below fuel filler cap. (Although this is the only rust on the car.) * The car has been sitting for a while and is very dirty. * Seats need leather treatment. (They are hard as rocks.) * Driver seat has some wear and needs recovered. The Plan: * Replace all fuel hoses ASAP. When the car was unloaded I let it sit for about five minutes idling and fuel began dripping from the passenger side just below the rear seat. Panic ensues. Wife freaks out. (No biggie, as my first order of business was to replace all hoses, but I would have preferred having a week or two to get around to it.) The driver told me that the car did not leak when loaded onto the truck. * Repair rust below fuel filler door. I'll do the repair work myself and take it someplace for the paint work. * Belt change. I haven't decided if I am going to tackle this myself or take it someplace. I have the skills (well, maybe), just not the time right now. * New fuse box. * Have bonnet struts rebuilt. * Have driver seat recovered or repaired. * etc., etc., etc. Thanks to everyone for all of the advice I've been given over the last couple of years! --Jeremy Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Well done! Sounds like when you are through, she will be a happy macchina bella!! Let us know if we can help!!
Congratulations....I looked at that car a year ago, and ended up with a t cabriolet. Good luck sorting!
Great choice of car, Silver is best but then you can't have everything!!! (not that I'm biased ) The QV 3.0 is good fun, had mine nine years now and still lovin it.
Congrats Jeremy! That's a beautiful car in person, pictures just don't do it any justice. Two more of "The Good" No oil leaks, And this... Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thanks for the congratulations, everyone! I'm pretty excited and can't wait to get the car road worthy. Speaking of which, I looked on FerrariAds for the fuel hose replacement kit and couldn't find it. Does anyone know if it is still available? Wade, I was very surprised that the car had a Tubi exhaust installed. The seller never mentioned it, and I even asked him what kind of exhaust was on the car. (He told me that he didn't know.) I'm going to start working on the rust issue while I source the fuel hoses. I'll take lots of pictures of my progress. --Jeremy
Looks like it finally went to the right buyer, that's great, I was getting tired of seeing on Ebay for the past 68 weeks!! Looks like a good car, and those wheels are Speedline Alessio's if I remember correctly. Congrats!
Congratulations! This is the nicest Mondial QV I ever saw. Very nice colour and wheels, this car has a lot of potential. What are the sizes of wheels and tires?
Hello, Many years ago I had the chance to buy a '85 Mondial Coupe but instead purchased a '95 Porsche 968 Cabriolet. I was afraid of the maintenance & repair costs on the Ferrari and had previously owned a Porsche. -I made the wrong decision. Keep us updated and have fun. Kind regards, Joe
Beautiful car! I really like the seating position of the Mondials and the view over the nose of the car. Just buy new gas struts, probably costs less than rebuilding even if somebody does that. Definitely buy a new fuse box if the reproduction/upgraded ones are available yet. Be sure to buy the wire terminals and plastic connectors too. ( I can provide you the part numbers if necessary). And, please swap the rear lights. Car has obviously been repainted. The amber/clear lights are originally mounted in outer position, red lamps are inboard.
Electrical Lesson One. (Paint this inside your eyelids!) DEOXIT D5!!! It's like anti-seize for electrical systems. You can't use too much!! Buy two cans and get busy. You may hear about Stabilant. Ferget it. Stabilant is good stuff, but doesn't come in a spray can and doesn't deoxidize. Is this the car that was previously owned by a Lawyer in Florida?
Here, again, is my standard warning: When you do the belts and tensioners, check, very carefully, the, cam belt drive pulley, outer bearings. They are sealed. They see no engine oil. When one lets go, you lose 16 valves! Ask me how I know.
Thanks! I'm anxious to start tearing into the car. Right now I'm sourcing parts, getting service quotes, etc. I'm going to start grinding away on the rust this week. The tires on the car are Michelin Pilot Sports, 225/40 ZR 18 (front), 265/35 ZR 18 (rear).
I'm going to order the Deoxit D5 today. Radio Shack carries "Deoxit Pro" -- do you know if it is the same stuff as the "D5?" The car was owned by the lawyer in Florida. (The car was actually registered to his firm.) Thanks!
My plan is to have Norwood Performance take care of the belts and tensioners the first time. I feel capable, but wouldn't mind the professionals going over the car with a fine-toothed comb the first time. Thanks.
No, Deoxit Pro is for recording studios. It's plastic safe for what that's worth, but doesn't have the deoxidizing power that we need. I have used D5 on my Mondial t inside and out and had no issues with "plastic safety". Of course I don't spray it willy nilly. I usually backdrop whatever part I'm treating with a paper towel, as excess tends to run out of the item in question. The paper towel seems to be sufficient. The other product of theirs that I am trying to get around to checking out is the "extreme environment" or some such version. I think the idea is that you use the D5 to get things up to par, and then apply the "environment" version to provide more long lasting contact enhancement. But as I can but D5 locally at Fry's Electronics I never get around to it. Funny that the poster mentioned belt bearings. Last night my power steering went out. Broken belt. The idler bearing is a sealed bearing and was toast. Believe me though, you would have noticed this one: one seal was gone and pieces of the cage were sticking out all over the place. Testament to Ferrari over-engineering: I am 99% certain that car has had the frozen idler pulley since well before I bought the car 5,000 miles ago. (Doesn't speak well for the "mechanic" who did the major a year ago, but that's a story for another day. )
It is so fun to see people taking care of old Mondial which contributes to rise the value of remaining cars. Keep on your good work and post lots of pictures. BTW I can see you have a tan interior, I love the Blue Tan combo, so classy! Most of the time I am not enthousiastic about the Mondial first generation front bumper, but yours combined with body colour, 18'' wheels and low profile tires make such a nice effect. Wow! So funny, exactly the same size that I will put on my new 18'' Foregeline wheels! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
OMG !!! ROTFLMAO !!! Dersono, I swear, once I will have these pictures I will send them to you first by pm. I now feel guilty!!! Please forgive me!
Could I have picked a worse week to have a "new" Ferrari in the garage? Car arrives on Sunday, goes into the garage, and then The Great White North invades Texas. I'm looking forward to a warm weekend out in the garage with the mistress; I mean Mondial. I ordered the new fuseboxes from Birdman. From what I've read that should be a fairly simple and valuable project. My Leatherique kit arrived today. My wife caught me carrying her hair dryer (to heat up the lather for conditioning) out to the garage this evening. I guess I'll head to Wally World tomorrow to buy a cheap dryer. (I'm afraid to use a heat gun on the seats -- has anyone any experience using a heat gun on the leather?) I'll start the rust repair on Sunday. I'm not the best at matching colors (my wife cringes when I dress the kids), so I'll have someone else do the paint blending. I'll search for a good, reasonably priced paint shop next week. (Any recommendations in the North Dallas area?) I got my "antique" car insurance through Hagerty. It was a very simple and painless process. I did have to send them details of my other vehicle coverage, which took me a couple of days to find. I find it ironic that, other than liability motorcycle insurance, my Ferrari coverage is cheaper than any other car I've owned. (Less than $290 a year for $25k declared value.) The car qualifies for "antique" license plates here in Texas. A neighbor runs them on his old Bug and recommended that I do the same on the Mondial. (Registration is much cheaper, and I think that inspections are less often.) Unfortunately, there is a restriction -- a vehicle tagged as an "antique" in Texas can only be driven to "public activities" and to repair facilities. My neighbor has never been stopped in his old Volkswagen, but something tells me that cops will notice the blue Mondial and wonder where I'm going with my antique tags. I'm heading to Autozone tomorrow to pick up a new battery, and then to Wal Mart for a battery tender. I'm not sure that the car needs a new battery, but as I go through the electrics I want to know that the battery isn't a source of any issues. I'll also pick up some low-profile ramps. I've gotten a couple of quotes for having the belts, bearings, hoses, etc. replaced. I have a couple more places to call on Monday. The quotes are a little higher than I expected, but they have been more thorough than I expected as well. No budget breakers. I haven't yet found Deoxit D5 locally. I read online that Fry's Electronics may carry it, so I'm heading there tomorrow. (I've checked Sears, Harbor Freight and Radio Shack.) Are there any threads demonstrating the proper technique of cleaning the various contacts on the car? Oh, I did purchase new windshield wipers for the car. --Jeremy p.s. I plan on swapping the tail lights this weekend.
Fry's has it. They'll have it with all the other contact cleaners. With DeOxit the procedure goes like this: spray some into the female terminal. Connect and disconnect the two terminals 3 or 4 times. Spray some more into the female terminal. Connect them. Let dry for 3 or 4 hours to evaporate the carrier solvent. If there is really heavy oxidation, maybe repeat the first two steps one extra time, before doing steps 3 and 4. That's it. The neat thing about this stuff is that it is non-conductive so you don't have to worry about multi-conductor terminals when you're spraying. However, once it is between two metallic surfaces with a voltage between them, then it conducts. That is why it is a contact enhancer. Great stuff. I wouldn't use a heat gun on leather - too high of a temperature and too focused.
