Hi Ya - here's mine. 308 GTB Build - November 1976 Assembly # 189A Chassis# 15346 Vin# 20399 *Color - Metallico Marrone *Interior - Pelle Beige VM3218 Confirmed w. Certificate from factory.
Thank you for everyone who has bothered to report their numbers! This is a slowly developing project and to be honest I had forgotten it completely but happened to stumble upon 308 GTB vetroresina 19681 in Padova on the weekend, and came decided to have a look at this thread. Best wishes, Kare
Here is my information that I have on hand I will get the other numbers tonight when I go home. 1980 GTSi VIN ZFFAA02A6A0032817 Built 6/1980 Black with Red Leather delivered to Detroit, MI Image Unavailable, Please Login
to whom it may concern vin 46453 productiondate 12 july 1983 sold to the first owner in Paris,France on the 21 of November 1983 ass nr 284 (sold in California somewere in 1986, if anybody knows this car please let me know) it's a euro QV gts in gricio 700
OK I don't own a QV, just a US GTSi from 1980, the dark days as we don't even get a postcard from the 60th celebration Mine was a September of 80, serial 33603. with a built number 528 which is not in line with some production numbers. Some source are saying that as low as 29 1980 308 GTSi were built, as I think the factory must have done i and carburated thru the year. I think it's a number that was given to the chassis by Scaglietti for them to control there output (and payment) to the Ferrari factory, regardless of the model being built. Think of it as a chassis serial number, use on the Ferrari assembly line as they wish. Regards Marc-André
I have it on good authority that the assembly numbers are for each model in each country for each model year. So, for example, the GTB mentioned above, 20399, with body number 189A, means that 20399 is the 189th 308 GTB in the United States for 1976. And while I can't find them anywhere on the bodies, body numbers are still in play with today's current Ferraris (this is in addition to today's assembly numbers).
Vin 33111 Build date July 1980 Assembly # 69a Engine F106b040 00460 Red/tan Bought this last summer and just finished major. Mike in Denver
I found out from the original dealer that sold my car that there are only 29 injected 1980 308 ever made. Mine is a GTSI. I bet yours is one of the 29, I wonder how many GTB's were made. I know if I ever sell it, I'm advertising it as 1 of 29. My serial number 33701, built in September 1980. I see you have a lower serial number so your car might of been one of the first ever built. Kelly Pearl River, LA USA
Thats not correct. There are far more than that. From 80 to 82 there were over 2100 made and probably 25% are MY1980. In research I am doing I have scooped up about 40 VINs and have not even begun work on the 80-82 cars yet. That 40 did not include yours. If you advertise 1 of 29 it will just be a misrepresentation that will hurt, not help your cause.
Carbon. I am having trouble accepting the current thought on the build numbers. I have #31387, a March 80 US car with build #23A Here we have 33111, a July 80 US car with #69A That much is OK I have a client with 33293, a US car but I do not now have the date of production but it is unquestionably a 1980 US car and it is #440A. There were not 440 North American 1980's built.
Now you know why I don't post here that much anymore. Go argue your case with the original dealer owner, Ferrari of the South, Jackson, MS Mr. Sam Scott. The majority of 308 produce in 1980 were carbed cars, only 29 injected car were made. Kelly
According to Original Ferrari V8's by Keith Bluemel: Page 57: 1980-82: 308GTBi; Chassis #'s: 31327-43059; #Built: 494 1980-82: 308GTSi; Chassis #'s: 31309-43079; #Built: 1749 Just a glance at the numbers would not give the "29" built number much sense. But stranger things have happened.
Kelly - This "only 29 1980 injected 308's" factory claim has been debated quite often here in the past. Thus, I would suspect, the appearance of impatience. For example, read thru this entire thread, which is simply the latest of several: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=166461 I personally have collected the serial numbers of about 150 or so 1980 "i" cars, out of a grand total (my estimate) of about 600 or so 308's made for that year. Of these, about 2/3rds of them, 400 or so (again, my estimate) were USA spec. And ALL of these 1980 USA spec cars (i.e., those with "A" as the year of manufacture in their serial number) were injected - no 1980 USA spec carb cars were ever made, to the best of my knowledge, due to smog requirements of that era. Cheers - DM
Brian... Perhaps Ferrari is doing things differently now than they were back then - especially considering a lot of the US cars (back then) had an 'A' after the assembly/build/body number. Date of Production on 33293 is most likely July. Perhaps the assembly/build/body numbers back then notated all 308s (GTBs and GTSes, both carbed and injected) for each country. But I'm convinced that, these days, the body numbers (separate from today's assembly numbers) are for each model per country per year. What else do you know about 33293...?
Its incorrect information no matter the source. And I am sorry if being told your information is wrong is that traumatic. I consider putting wives tales to rest a service to all. We all benefit from factual information and putting an end to those wives tales. Carbon has been doing it a long time. I have more recently been working on a book whose purpose is to record the life cycle, variations, and production changes of the 308/328 series. I have developed quite a bit of information but it is still in its beginning stages. As far as I know Blumels book has pretty good info on production numbers. I take issue with a great deal of other things about it but for shear numbers his book puts the number of those cars much higher than 29 and my info supports that. Just like there are more than 400 Enzo's but that is another story.
Tifosi1, Did that dealer say that there were 29 1980 injected 308's or 29 1980 308 GTBi cars? From what Rifledriver is saying he has found more VINs but it is not clear here if they are 1980-1982 or GTSi and GTBi combined or if these VINs are limited to 1980 308 GTBi. I have no facts to back up what WAS my belief that there were only 29 1980 GTBi's but would love to see the final listing of VINs proving or disproving this "wives tale". Has anyone collected more that 29 VINs for the very specific combination of all three variables: 1980, 308, GTBi? Just seeking truth, Mike in Denver 33111 1980 308 GTBi
At one time this was on the GTB Registry site. This is a screen shot of the chart with production numbers. I checked and it is no longer on the site. http://www.308gtb.de/ Image Unavailable, Please Login
I always thought the last carb cars were produced as 1979 models. That chart has overlaps on the cars built in 1980. This is what is listed at present. Image Unavailable, Please Login
In the mountain of data I have for my book I have almost 600 VIN's for 1980 GTSi and over 85 1980 GTBi. The vast majority are USA spec cars primarily because very few injected cars in 1980 were sent anywhere else. It might be more but is in multiple data bases and has not yet been collated. I will also say that number represents a portion of my research that I have not even begun yet so more will turn up when I try. I am currently focusing on 328 and will work backwards. Like I said earlier, wives tales benefit no one and is part of the reason for my research. Lets all quit clutching at romantic stories with no basis in truth dreamed up by some car salesman and rely on history instead. And it is history, it is not opinion, it is not what my Uncles Brother told my Dad, it is history. There are too many sources of information in the public domain to continue with silly debates about such wildly incorrect numbers. If any of you wish to persue truth I would suggest Matthias Urbans exellent book as a place to start. No one knowledgeable is going to give an exact number because no one knows it. All of our works are works in progress but we have progressed way beyond 29.
Only the factory knows for sure how many were built. The Classiche Department should have all the data. I spoke with Lucia Petrone at Ferrari North America and she was very helpful. Image Unavailable, Please Login
