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308 Assembly Sequence Numbers

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  1. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Scott... Do you mean to say that 31309 was the first GTSi of 1980...? Because I have serial numbers much earlier than that from 1980. Also, 30735 is identified as an injected GTS. Your car, 31311, is the third GTS as far as I know. Lastly, I have 31327 as last being for sale on eBay in March of 2008 - has it been for sale since then...?


    Do you know the full VIN for this car...? ZFFBA03B000034379...?

    Definitely...?

    Thank you Matthias (and Jonathan!) for this clarification...!

    Tim, I highly doubt Ferrari would fill in the gaps.
     
  2. timr

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    Carbon-
    Has anyone ever asked?

    Tim
     
  3. 134282

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    Not to my knowledge, but I recently saw a post where someone asked for some information and only received half of an answer. I can't see Ferrari allocating time to any of its employees to fill in the gaps for a register.
     
  4. BigTex

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    #329 BigTex, Feb 5, 2009
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    4:57AM??????? :D :D :D

    This is correct...I have them all.........

    #22641 is abandoned in a South Austin alley off Congress Avenue....
    #22127 is dismantled at Vintage Motorcars and they don't seem inclined to reassemble it...
    #20405 appears periodically at the Saint Arnold's brewery tours, and is awaiting repairs from my neighbor smashing into it.
     
  5. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    It wouldn't answer the question of how many remain, anyway....I'm sure thousands have been lost, at this point
     
  6. thecarreaper

    thecarreaper F1 World Champ
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    work :) i have to get up early.

    22641 better not be in an alley abandoned.... people like me are always looking for parts! :)
     
  7. robbie308

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    #332 robbie308, Feb 6, 2009
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    Hi Carbon, since it is a carb'd 308 GTB, it does not have a full 17-digit-VIN, but only the 5-digit serial number

    I totally agree, unfortunately. And what would be the precise question we should ask - the yearly production of each model?
     
  8. robbie308

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    Alan, so that's the reason why you keep buying one after the other! :)
     
  9. timr

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    OK, let me know the two questions on production you want to know.I'll write the letter and have it translated and courier it to them. Also, I will need a place to print out the most current set of information to provide them in regards to year, vin, manufacture date and such. I am not saying they will provide every detail of their manufacturing logs, but I do think that cultivating a relationship with them will provide more answers than pinging each other and guessing. You can also PM me if you want to pass along any tips you have had working with them on certificates, history and such. Thanks, let me know.

    Tim
     
  10. 134282

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    Robbie, are you saying that none of the carbed 308s have VINs, but only serial numbers...? I ask this because 34379 is well into 1980 with many other models before it wielding VINs. Also, Edvar van Daalen's 'Decoding the VIN' section of his Website, Red-Headed.com, shows a letter for the fourth position of both Euro wet and Euro dry sump 308s (B and C, respectively).
     
  11. robbie308

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    Yep, that's what I say. I never saw a carb'd 308 GTB with a full 17 digit VIN, nor has it been reported to me from our chassis number researching friends.

    I know, but has anybody ever seen or photographed one such 17-digit-VIN on a carb'd GTB? I am spotting these cars for 11 years now, but have never ever seen one. If it is not on the fifth-to-last car (34379), where else should it be?
     
  12. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

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    I have seen and photographed a 17-digit VIN on a 308 GTS. I'll PM you and Carbon the link to the thread when I have found it.

    Jonathan
     
  13. robbie308

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    Hi Jonathan, that's most interesting, thank you!

    BTW, the last 308 GTB for the UK (s/n 34347) is said to wear a full VIN: ZFFCA03C000034347. It s now located in New Zealand.

    Another RHD 308 GTB believed to have a 17-digit VIN is s/n 30183: VIN is ZFFCA03C000030183

    Also there is S/N30039, a yellow 308 GTB RHD, wearing an incorrect 14-digit VIN: ZFFH0000030039.

    But as I said, until now I never saw one of those VIN-plates it in the flesh or a on photo.

    I assume it might be possible that - towards the end of production - one or another car has received a 17-digit VIN plate, simply because they were in reach of the mechanic on the assembly line, or they ran out of the old ones, or the engraver made them mistakenly while working on a batch of 17-digit 308 GTBi badges... who knows.

    Regards, Robert
     
  14. Jeff Kennedy

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    Alan,

    What is it, you figure with enough around at least one might start when you need to go somewhere? No wonder the Boxer deal didn't work - they figured one more semi-functional car taking up space. Joking!

    Jeff
     
  15. Jeff Kennedy

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    Tim,

    I would suggest that you/someone come up with a real good connection to the factory when you try for this. There must certainly be some people on F-chat that have personal connections at the factory. Certainly some of the Classiche consultants would have the access but would they have the inclination? Since you went through the Classiche process did this give you any special insight in how to find the right people?

    Jeff
     
  16. bobs308

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    Here’s the info on my car if you need it. 1978 308 GTS #24903, build date June 1978, Engine # 00399, Trans # 3043/F106AL. Black/Black, 19,000 Miles, Borrani wire wheels. I believe it was purchased new in Chicago and is currently in Lubbock, TX.

    Randy
     
  17. 134282

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    Randy, thank you. Do you know the assembly number...?
     
  18. bobs308

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    Let me take a look next weekend; won't have time before then. It has been converted to electronic ignition so I may not have a coil bracket any more. I'll let you know what I find out.

    Randy
     
  19. AndrewE

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    Yes RHD and first registered in UK in January 1981....I'll be picking her up from specialist today so will check assy numbers if I can find them!
     
  20. 134282

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    Thanks, Gents...!
     
  21. bobs308

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    Found it-332A Assembly Number for Vin 24903

    Randy
     
  22. kare

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    No, no, no! Has no VIN. Probably one of the last eauro cars using just a bare serial.

    (Preparing an update... )

    Best wishes, Kare
     
  23. kare

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    New update with quite a few new numbers. Keep them coming!

    http://koti.welho.com/kpietil4/308.htm

    With 92 cars included the patterns are getting very clear. Maybe I should check back a little more often...
     
  24. 308 GTB

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    #349 308 GTB, Apr 30, 2009
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    Thank you for the updated list, Kare.

    My car already appears on your list, but here's a picture of the Assembly Sequence Number.

    Barry

    1976 308 GTB Fiberglass S/N 19399
    Assembly Sequence Number 5A
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  25. thecarreaper

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    very cool list, thank you for doing this. its interesting to see the 5 Ferrari's i have owned listed!
     

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