Chaos, I refer you to www.tomyang.net. Tom's site is only for what Americans call Vintage Ferraris so this topic really hits an understandable nerve. If you search around Tom's excellent site you will find pictures of perfect bodies that have lost their drive train. Pete
Have you driven a worn out 60s Ferrari or found a car that is to far gone.Where not talking old Alfas here,its just to expensive to repair these cars to what they were.What spares are rare,what are you missing?
Don't understand? ... why does converting the car to a replica have anything to do with this issue. In both cases the mechanical items will have to be replaced, no difference in cost ... otherwise your replica will also be like driving a worn out 60s Ferrari. BTW: Have you ever driven a good mechanical condition 60s Ferrari to compare. Thus the mechanical condition has no bearing on this discussion. PS: Search Tom Yangs site for "The Story Behind the Forlorned Ferrari" and you will find a perfect 250 GT 2+2 that has lost out to a replica. Pete
mechanical condition at least with a rep you can get away with replacing certain parts with non ferrari bits/parts and not be held accountable for ie gearbox ,brakes,radiator it goes on. Why would you save a awful thing like a .................... when its cheaper to re create a car you want. Anyway its the owners choice not the publics. wwwpartingoutOHOS.com.au
just because you haven't seen them, doesn't mean they are not being enjoyed by their owners who says the owners are lying and saying they are the real thing? I doubt it I respect your passion for trying to retain these cars, but at the end of the day the person who writes the cheque can do whatever he/she wants with these cars
my thoughts are pay up or shut up. my car i do as i wish. if want modern brakes,ZF gearbox,motec ,mine to do it.
i accept that some will have been based on good cars- but you said MOST were. so far i still havent seen that statement backed up
I share the thought. I respect the passion for originality (and share in it wholeheartedly) but many replica owners enjoy their cars immensely and it's not my place to judge them - They wrote the check and a GTE just isn't historic (not like a SWB, TR or other race ready vintage at least). There's a fellow here in SD who has a really nicely done SWB replica and drives on weekend mornings with a big grin on his face. When I stopped to ask him about it, the first thing he said was "not original, but it's a helluva drive." Good on him. My guess is that many replica owners aren't interested in "the community" or the "show" aspect of vintage Ferrari circles (certainly this community isn't interested in them either!). They drive for coffee. They drive up the coast. They drive to smell roses. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, even if the factory intended the car to look differently when it was purchased. That said, yeah, I'd keep it a GTE myself. But we all differ and I appreciate a beautiful car being driven.
funny how no one worries about my Jaguar E-type,it has a long history of competion and many LWT features yet never been a issue with the mods I've done and its history is far more important then any GTE or 330 2+2 car. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
how many GTEs would get a invite to Goodwood? Mind you the Jag is worth over 500k.Due to its build sheets and racing history. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
got more alloy panels then any non comp 60's Ferrari this side of a 275 alloy. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Mate, your Jag is still an E-type ... so of course there is no issue. And your comment about being invited to Goodwood is similarly weird. Is that how we judge the quality of a car?. I doubt also that any replica GTO would be invited (period rebodies would be another story as they should be. Period rebodies add variety and are NOT the same thing as a modern replica using old donors), but I've seen many photos of GTE's in Goodwood settings (not just the car park). Pete
Mate, That is not what I said, I said this: Thus not necessarily good cars, but cars that where repairable ... thus the argument that they are BEYOND repair is not valid. Best Pete
its rarer as per its factory build sheets then any GTE.Weird it raced their in the period that is why it would get an invite to RACE. Anyway looking forward to chopping up some old heaps that have had their day. Hey i know , you should buy 'em and save 'em.
Beg to differ. The E is, and will forever be an icon. Look at the numbers produced and what the market is paying, i'd say that's pretty good. They also seem to have suffered less from the woes the world is going through at the moment, but that's just a feeling I have, not based on real sales. Seymours' OTS is just a great looking car, without any of its' history known to me.
I think PSK should buy one of our project cars and save it from its new life. One of those cars we bought has been off the road since the mid '80s.Give it a year and it will be a flower with a Historic log book.
Referring to the second picture of your post, I find it amazing that olde worlde craftsmanshippe of ye olde vehicles also includede harde woode flooring in place of woole. That heating controle unit in the Jag as seen in the aforementioned picture, is that a Lucas unit or a device from some other manufacturer? Edit: 2nd pic in this post: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138491843&postcount=89
pine floors keep the rust away. the heater is known as a "Conservatory heater" cast iron circa 1901 fueled by kerosene.
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I am amazed by the room in the interior. The automobile looks quite cramped when viewing the exterior and does not let on of the vast proportions that await one when seated. I had a similar auto carriage last year, but I made the mistake of sending it in for Jaguar/Lucas Classiche Certification. The historians/mechanics made the mistake of turning on the ignition whilst the auto carriage was parked in their certification facilities; the end result could be seen at night as far North as Roseberry Topping and and from the far Western towne of Porthcawl and as far East as Lowestoft. Jolly good lads they were, they sent me the J/L CC Certificate along with the 14 grams that remained of my car. As luck would have it, those 14 grams are comprised solely of the chassis number plate, so the car can be resent whiterto to the originating factory for a complete refit of all bits, mechanical, stationary and whatnot.
No doubt far more effective at heat than the olden VW Beetle shrouds of long forgotten frozen testicle nights. Youths today are far too coddled with amenities such as heat that works on command in an automobile. I grew up during a time when extra heat in a car meant putting on another layer of blanket in order to find a few degrees of warmth. Breathe into the blankets so as not to frost the insides of the glass. Dual zone heating? Heating catered to each occupant? We were lucky to get heat that sometimes matched ambient temperature.
