LH lied to stewards?

Nice to see the the ones that like to disappear when LH wins, then come to life when LH is under the cosh..LMAO

 

They didn't have radio transmissions with Micheal saying "ok I'm going to park my car here." They handed his ruling out as a judgment call, as you could not prove completely that he deliberately parked his car. The Hamilton incident has undeniable proof that he did it on purpose.

 

LH didn't do anything on purpose he was asking what to do, so were Mclaren, asking race control for advise but no answer! the cock up was because Mclaren did not release all the info on the matter then gave out conflicting versions. LH did not do this off his own back.

Much to the dismay of some on here.

 

From the Steward's Transcripts:

"Both the driver and the Team Manager stated that no such instruction had been given. The Race Director specifically asked Hamilton whether he had consciously allowed Trulli to overtake. Hamilton insisted that he had not done so.

The new elements presented to the Stewards several days after the 2009 Australian Grand Prix which led to the reconvened Stewards Meeting clearly show that:

a. Immediately after the race and before Lewis Hamilton attended the Stewards Meeting he gave an interview to the Media where he clearly stated that the Team had told him to let Trulli pass.

b. Furthermore, the radio exchanges between the driver and the Team contain two explicit orders from the Team to let the Toyota pass."


Since now I read here that Hamilton is not soley responsible for his actions, I guess someplace in between the meeting with the Stewards and the press interview, someone instructed Hamilton to make a statement 180 degrees from the the statement made to the stewards?? Forgetting for a moment the part of this concerning the team radio recordings, I wonder, who told Hamilton to make either statement? And why did he do it knowing one of them is a lie? Of all of the conflicing comments, why did this one draw Charlie Whitings response of a DQ, not those of the team as they were not directly penalized?

In my book, as am I, Hamilton is responsible for his words. And his actions. Last I heard he is not a puppet. He gave conflicting statements, got his just reward. Very very simple conclusion.

Time to move on.

 

Back track time

 

It wasn't a judgement call. They had indisputable telemetry data showing that MS had gone through the corner numerous times before at a higher rate of speed. The last time through the corner he braked harder and locked up and had been going slower. He never claimed he had a mechanical problem, he just said he lost it and the telemetry showed it was a blatant lie.

Not only did he lie to the stewards/FIA, but he also caused a premature end to qualifying, screwing the qualifying efforts of multiple other cars, most notably his chief rival Alonso. And for that, he was demoted, only in qualifying, to the back.

I think the crimes are much worse in MS's case, and his penalty was much more lenient.

It's not said as an MS hater, I think he's the greatest driver of all time bar none, and I love the guy, but what he did was worse than Lewis, what he got was much lighter.

Like I said it just seems there is really no equality. I definitely think the FIA essnetially hands out whatever penalty they feel like and make up justifications for it later.

As was stated above, Lewis gained nothing by his actions, so to accuse him of knowingly lying just for the sake of lying is an accusation that has little merit.

I think Ian is hitting closer to home in that it was a stupid mistake on the part of LH and the team. He's paying a very dear price for that mistake.

 

I dared to mention that 7 times WC Michael schumacher did the same antics today on this thread, and i got these comments. All gone strangly quite now that other people have joined in thinking the same.

 

Florian,

You are seemingly right, BUT it happens all the time in the hundreds of hours of tapes I have read/heard recorded from the greatest sport ever created by man on this earth-- Combat. Even the perps are completely amazed at hearing what they said just hours before.

Guys,

F1 needs to get fixed or you might as well take up knitting and roll dice to determine the winner of each race and the overall champ. The more this Mickey Maus happens, the less chance I will EVER become, and my friends will remain, a fan.

Good Luck .................. as all this is beyond s t u p i d.

 

+1

someone give LH the cap with a big L on the front.

loser, liar, take your pick.

 

Agreed to some extent, but data is data, he could have been going slower for a multitude of reasons. He didn't ever say that he did it on purpose to my knowledge.

 

I just caught up on this story and they're considering EXCLUDING Hamilton from the WDC? Are you effing kidding me? OMG, this is just absolute over-the-top?

The FIA and Formula 1 is a freaking joke! We're supposed to believe that honesty is part of this sport while Bernie Ecclestone and Mad Max twist the rules in a constant bid to make a once-pure sport WWF on wheels? REALLY? I think it's absolutely RETARDED that he was DQ'd from the race, and any attempt to ban him further is sublimely mind-numbing. This guy filled the vacancy as F1's face when Schumacher retired and they treat him like a pariah. Love him or hate him (as Schuey was), he's the one who gave F1 something new and exciting when it was becoming a boring parade-fest. This is what he gets in return? Absolutely ridiculous.

I agree with Kraftwerk...Lewis should quit freaking F1 and go dominate another series. He almost won his first year and did his second. Leave now and cross the pond to IRL. With the CART merger, I'm certain someone will cough up some jack to get arguably one of the (if not THE) best drivers in the world to become the face of that series. Hell, I'll trade Danica straight up with England. It would give US open wheel racing a serious shot in the arm.

I can't believe the bull**** that's happened over the last 24 hours. I really thought it was all a joke.

Obviously, Formula 1's the real joke. I, for one, will stop watching Bernie's silly **** show if this goes through.

 

WTF! FIA is a bloody disgrace not checking the radio transmissions right away...Trulli said that all along &^%$^%$%*#@

 

Anyone check out the radio transcripts on Autosport?

"Transcript of the radio transmission between Lewis Hamilton and McLaren during the Australian Grand Prix:

Team: OK Lewis, you should need to make sure your delta is positive over the safety car line. After the safety car line the delta doesn't matter but no overtaking. No overtaking.

Lewis Hamilton: The Toyota went off in a line at the second corner, ..., is this OK?

Team: Understood, Lewis. We'll confirm and get back to you.

LH: He was off the track. He went wide.

Team: Lewis, you need to allow the Toyota through. Allow the Toyota through now.

LH: OK.

LH: He's slowed right down in front of me.

Team: OK, Lewis. Stay ahead for the time being. Stay ahead. We will get back to you. We are talking to Charlie.

LH: I let him past already.

Team: OK, Lewis. That's fine. That's fine. Hold position. Hold position.

LH: Tell Charlie I already overtook him. I just let him past.

Team: I understand Lewis. We are checking. Now can we go to yellow G 5, yellow Golf 5.

LH: I don't have to let him past I should be able to take that position back, if he made a mistake.

Team: Yes, we understand Lewis. Let's just do it by the book. We are asking Charlie now. You are in P4. If you hold this position. Just keep it together.

Team: OK Lewis, your KERS is full, your KERS is full. Just be aware. You can go back to black F2, black Foxtrot 2.

LH: Any news from Charlie whether I can take it back or not.

Team: Still waiting on a response Lewis, still waiting.

Team: Lewis, work on your brakes please. Front brakes are cold.

Team: If we are able to use one KERS that would be good. If you deploy KERS please do so now.

Team: OK, Lewis, this is the last lap of the race. At the end of the lap the safety car will come in, you just proceed over the line without overtaking, without overtaking. We are looking into the Trulli thing, but just hold position."

To listen to a recording of the radio transmission between Lewis Hamilton and the team, click here.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74159

 

Both Trulli and Hamilton radio transmission are also available on youtube.

 

I hope Hamilton gets kicked out! I can't stand him and that commentator from Speed TV. This season would be perfect without Hamilton so the commentator would finally realize there are other good F1 drivers.

 

McLaren Sporting Director Davey Ryan has been suspended and sent home. He's taking the rap for this.

 

Crashnet are reporting "rumours" he's left the team, not just Sepang.

 

Just heard on the radio that he's resigned. McLaren having a press conference soon.

 

What chance Lewis does the "honorable thing" too?

Not much.

 

So what F1 driver has done the "honorable thing" before?? Concidering that far far worse has been done in F1. Which F1 driver has quit in the past because of somthing like this?

 

Davey Ryan didn't quit.
McLaren threw him under the bus. That's my point
Two employees do the same thing yet are treated completely differently as McLaren attempt to spin the issue away.
"Not us, sir. It was a rogue employee".

I don't for one minute expect LH to fall on his sword.

 

LOL i see zero you are still here with your Lewis love fest!!. Thing is both him and another employee of mc Cheaters Lied to the stewards. They suspend Dave for his actions. Now is that not a tad unfair? Both do the same thing, 1 gets suspended but the other not? Unusual to say the least.

 

Yep, I hope he leaves, better still kicked out! but it won't happen. Yet I cannot believe after such a promising start to this season, we are only one race in and the FIA in one foul swoop, have turned it into a farce, I was going to go to a race this year, this has made my mind up, I'am not going to give one single penny to this sport, why would any one pay to see a race, yet have the results of it switched twice days later.

However I would pay big bucks to see to see Porno Max walk over a razor sharp cattle grid in a very heavy hat!!..

Any ways it has made some folk on here happy, it obvious to me they will grab a result in any form if it suit's!!, my sort of racing belongs on the track .......so I will leave em to it!.

 

There's no love fest, your mistaking whats between you and your boyfriend with this issue.
I was asking a question...simple, i see you could not answer the question either then No driver has quit F1 over something like this.
And explain to me whats unusual about one getting suspended and the driver not, whats the norm in F1 then regarding cases like this then? Theres another question you find difficult to answer

 

Lewis talking to press now. Likely to admit that he lied and apologise.