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  1. vinuneuro

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    #1 vinuneuro, Apr 15, 2009
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    Great, now let's get on with the racing..

     
  2. xenonito

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    Expected.
     
  3. GTE

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    Button for WDC!
     
  4. Anthony_Ferrari

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  5. Etcetera

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    FANtastic!
     
  6. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Commercial interests before sporting ones it seems....having that, great maybe the FIA can allow teams to test and develope a diffuser.
     
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  8. classic308

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    80 hours of wind tunnel development are necessary, or the diffusers will have to be developed over the course of several race weekends by which time the championships will be most likely be won by Brawn. I can see a team (Renault?) dropping out of F1 after this season. Don't forget Brawn has been developing their chassis far longer than any of their rivals and had lots of Honda $$$ behind it until Honda foolishly dropped out. No matter which way the decision went, I'd lift the ban on testing for at least a month....
     
  9. bigodino

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    +1

    I like to see Button and Brawn doing so well especially after all the trouble the last couple of months. But I still think they have an unfair advantage. And will continue to for quite some time, which makes this championship a bit tainted IMHO.
     
  10. Ferrari 360 CS

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    My point being Brawn winning is generating more money, more viewer interest so why get rid of a good (money making) thinh, sad as it is to say F1 is nothing more than a circus. The rot started when slicks were banned the first time....

    I say again lift testing and let everyone else develope cars. The only interest in F1 for me is going to be the USA F1 team
     
  11. Anthony_Ferrari

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    They don't have an unfair advantage. The WMSC ruled that it is fair. The other teams could have done the same, but they interpreted the rules differently. Brawn sacrificed their 2008 season so they could have a good run in 2009. Any other team could have done the same thing.
     
  12. Etcetera

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    Renault won't be dropping out because of a diffuser issue. They'll drop out for the same reason Honda (wisely) dropped out...dwindling clang in the corporate coffer in the face of an unknown future for car sales. Keep in mind that Ghosn has held a dark cloud over Renault for some years now which led to Alonso's brief departure from the team after winning two WDC's on the trot.

    Freebie testing won't work. What's the point of rules if they can be bent to fit when other teams are behind? We've already seen the gaming of the engine development ban, extending that to other areas obviates the point of rules (however stupid) in the end.
     
  13. Ferrari 360 CS

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    This nicely sums up my view on the matter, rules created for what reason, to reduce cost or create greater viewer interest which creates greater revenue. Personally I beleive any of thr 4 teams are better off just leaving this years car and developing next years one, but again how any developement can take place without testing I dont know.
     
  14. classic308

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    I agree and meant to say that in my original post-they will drop out due to $$$$ but will use this ruling as an example.
     
  15. classic308

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    If I'm one of the four teams I'm looking at the races as development tests and am concentrating on developing a reliable KERS system.
     
  16. Scuderia-F1

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    It´s not Brawns (or Williams or Toyotas) headache that the FIA did a lousy job when they outformed the new rules!
    I´m glad that they came to this verdict.
    If it´s not illegal it´s legal.
    Hope to see a big improvement soon from Maranello, too bad they let Ross go...
     
  17. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Agree develop KERS in the races but in reality testing cannot occur but teams can spend millions on KERS....contradiction but then F1 is full of those...
     
  18. RP

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    The ruling is good. Although I wonder, should the FIA give the non-diffuser teams a temporary increase in the size of the rear wing? Say, two months, maybe three months, enough time to incorporate the diffuser?

    Or maybe is that too NASCAR?

    But then, NASCAR does keep the cars more equal giving every brand a chance to be competitive.
     
  19. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Agree its not the other teams fault, the fault is clearly with whomever drew up the rules in the first place....as for a big improvement lets wait and see but I wont be holding my breath...
     
  20. Etcetera

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    Nope. Rules are the rules. Live or die by them.
     
  21. Etcetera

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    Yep. I damned near ripped my molars out with barbed-wire floss when I read a bit by Max saying F1 might be going to a spec KERS unit for the future. In the face of so much cost cutting, why introduce a technology that teams will spend tens upon tens of millions of dollars individually and 100's of millions collectively for something that will be thrown to the wayside in one or two years' time with a spec unit?

    Mernie are addle-minded old fools. Soylent Green them now and get on with the business of racing and not micro0mismanaging everything.
     
  22. xenonito

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    Development of double-decker diffuser to a point where it's of similar efficiency as on BGP 001 requires much more then 80 hours in wind tunnel. Successful double-decker design requires lot's of research starting from the front of the car...
     
  23. DF1

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    +1 they survived many reviews by the race stewards, Charlie Whiting etc. Time for the real chase to begin on Brawn.
     
  24. Anthony_Ferrari

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    Diffusers legal - but it got very personal


     
  25. AlexO91

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    We're looking good for a very intresting season. Can't wait to see what the other teams come up with.
     

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