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Can you go two weeks without buying something made in China?

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  1. PeterS

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    At least twice a week, I have to run to the store for something I need. A special trip for something like a power strip, extension cord or a new CD or DVD. Lets say you had to go two weeks straight without buying anything made in China? Think it would be tough? I do!

    The rules are simple: Before you start, you can not stock up on anything!
     
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    I would guess it's probably impossible, at least if you are buying anything electric,
    electronic, a toy, anything plastic, etc. Just stick with food and you'll probably
    be OK, as long as it isn't dog food! But of course, we COULD have an American
    made DVD player - if folks were willing to pay $800 for it. Or a power strip for
    $35. Or an MP3 player for $500. Slave wages = cheap products. But once
    upon a time, stuff from Japan was the same way, until the Japanese started
    demanding a better living. What happens when the labor force in China does
    the same thing?
     
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    Easy.

    I hardly buy anything these days except food. I have pretty much everything else I need.

    The supplies I use for my business are all made in the USA.
     
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    Correct to a point on the China - Japan thing. At the time (in the 60's), we did not want to buy Japanese products as we had the 'That thing was made on an assembly line' mentality. What we failed to notice was the quality. Japan made things better than the US did and in a manufacturing manner in which quality duplicated quality. With China on the other hand, there was a time (70's) where we had a choice of buying a power strip made in the US for $15 or one that was made in China for $6.95. We knew we were sacrificing quality and the product would not last as long as the same item that was made in the US, but the delta in cost savings helped us justify buying poorer quality merchandise.
     
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    I will not buy Chinese goods due to the oppression of the Chinese government over Tibet. It is tough going into a hardware store to not buy Chinese products but there are ways around it. I will go for a hammer made in Mexico or Taiwan verses the Chinese hammer.
     
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    #6 Jedi, Apr 18, 2009
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    That's great when it can be done. But 99% of all of the parts inside your computer were made either
    in China, Taiwan, or Singapore. Virtually all laptops come from central Taiwan. Small bits like resistors,
    capacitors, diodes, and the like are ALL made in China now - even those used by US manufacturers of
    electronics (Stewart Audio, Biamp Systems, APB Dynasonics, and many others). And other than a
    scant few very expensive boutique brands, ALL shoes come from Asia. Most recycled metal comes
    from China and Southern Taiwan now - even though it may well have been crushed in the US. And
    most US appliances (Kenmore, Whirpool, etc.) are assembled in the US, but with virtually 100% of
    the plastic parts inside imported from China.

    But it can be done. The link below is about a family that tried in earnest to avoid Chinese products
    for a year (but ended up with Italian shoes, stuff from Indonesia and Korea - there just isn't that
    much made in the US anymore in certain product categories). I've thought about trying this as
    a challenge, but I just don't think that outside of food and a few key items (certain tools, etc.)
    it's just no longer possible to 'live without Chinese products'.

    http://tinyurl.com/dy9twp - Tiny link to 'A year without products from China' book - interesting book!

    Jedi

    ps - you do know that Taiwan is a Republic of China, right? Autonomous in many ways, yes, but still very
    much part of the Chinese culture and machine - I've been there 2 dozen times myself doing engineering work,
    for products engineered in Taichung and Taipei but then made in Ningbo or Guangou on the mainland.
     
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    Correct, but lets look where the profit goes.....Most of the components were designed by and owned by American companies. The processors, capacitors, connectors, etc. are American companies that have manufacturing in China, Taiwan, etc. So in short, the profits come back to the US companies. Granted that the labor and materials are procured offshore, but it's not entirely like 100% of the profits stay in the Pacific Rim.......Am I scratching at straws here?
     
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    No, you're not scratching at straws - that IS a bright light if any can be found. But once upon a time,
    Raytheon, Sylvania and a host of others made all that stuff here. But in the 1970s a good 1% tolerance
    metal film resistor cost 20 cents made here. Doesn't seem like much... but I just ordered several
    hundred similar resistors from Futurlec.com (Bangkok, Thailand but made in China) for less than 1
    cent each. SOMEONE in China made a wage on that paltry amount, and the manufacturer in China
    made SOME profit on the sale, and Futurlec made a profit on the markup - all for an item that sold
    to me for less than a PENNY!

    It just simply is what it is. There are NO factories in the US that make actual parts. Zero. So
    the few US manufacturers have no choice but to go to China to get the raw parts (that I might
    add are of excellent quality, btw).

    Jedi
     
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    #9 Jedi, Apr 18, 2009
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    One other note... I always get crap from a 'Buy American' friend that I drive a Mercedes, and
    he drives a Ford Focus. However, my 2008 E350 I bought 'used' with only 2300 miles on it,
    and 100% of the money I paid went to the local Merc dealer as a 'used car sale' - not a penny
    went to Germany. So now let's look at his new 2009 Ford Focus - almost NONE OF IT is made in the US!
    The following countries had parts in subcontract: Tao-Yuan, Taiwan; Chongqing, China; Russia;
    South Africa; Argentina; Philippines; Spain; Portugal; and Germany! (Source: wikipedia).

    So which is more 'American'? The new Ford made all around the planet, or the used Mercedes?
    I mean at least as far as profits distribution goes....

    Jedi
     

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