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TRIBUTE TO THE CHALLENGE STRADALE

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  1. 360trev

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    Contact Prosport Ferrari, they do the full strad kit, www.prosport-ferrari.co.uk
     
  2. Bullfighter

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    Thx. The wheels are definitely much better -- not sure what Ferrari were thinking with the standard 360 wheels.

    To be fair (to me...), some of those things don't leap out at the casual observer (fuel filler flap, lug nuts...)

    Now that you point it out the skirts do make it look more muscular than the base Modena. Half the Modenas I see have the challenge grille, which confuses the issue.

    Is the visual difference in the deck lid basically the pattern over the side vents?
     
  3. Bullfighter

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  4. Derek Trotter

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    #54 Derek Trotter, Apr 17, 2009
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    Bullfighter - When the two cars are side by side, the differences are quite obvious. When they are seen individually, it takes a trained eye to spot the differences. When you see a Modena with the CS bumpers and sills, it's a lot more difficult to decipher - the average man in the street couldn't tell the difference! Check out this vid.
     
  5. 360trev

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    TBF these aerodynamic changes where all refinements done in the wind tunnel. The rear nulder alone improves the downforce on the back of the car quite considerably, to the extent it acts like having a rear wing attached but without the drag it induces. The flat profile and lower ride height of the sideskirts also contributes to stopping air flowing under the sides of the car reducing negative lift at high speeds. The diffusers attached to the rear bumper contribute to smooth out the airflow under the car and lead to higher speed stability. The prounounced front lips on the front bumper help to channel/split the air more efficiently again improving downforce. All the subtle changes work efficiently to improve the force pushing the car down firmly into corners improving cornering grip and poise through twisties. They also look more aggressive and sporty!
     
  6. I.T. Guy

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    Don't forget 118.5 bhp/litre the highest specific power output ever form a road-going aspirated engine
     
  7. dmark1

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    EXACTLY. Mine is paid for shined up and in the garage for my entertainment. People that need to sell their cars right now will lower the market value for a while, but they will dry up to to low supply. This car
    will be worth F40 numbers in the next 10 - 15 years.

    Mark
     
  8. I.T. Guy

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    Timing. Because when I have Ferrari money your CS will be gone.
    Nice car.

    Back to reading my CS brochure...
     
  9. Under PSI

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    It's not the highest output ever, but it was the highest output in 2004 when it came out. When the 2000 Honda S2000 was introduced, it had a 2.0L 240 hp engine, 120 hp per liter. By 2004, the displacement had increased to 2.2L but hp had not changed.
     
  10. Bullfighter

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    I agree, and when it comes to the late model Ferraris I'm more like the average man on street. Park 500 CS's and 500 Modenas in a row and I could tell them apart with some coaching (aside from Modenas with CS body kits), but I was surprised at the "best looking Ferrari road car ever" comments up front. I'd think you either like the 360/F430 look or not -- kind of like the Testarossa and 512TR.

    But, as I said, I've never really "studied" the 360 range. It's probably like parents who can tell their kids apart when the rest of us think they're twins.
     
  11. brainbizz

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    I did not think my MY04 360 would be that much different than my CS until I parked them next to each other. It was instantly obvious. It was even more interesting when they were parked by a 430.
     
  12. 360trev

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    #62 360trev, Apr 18, 2009
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    They look even meaner when the adjustible suspension is set low for the track, see illustrative pic @ Monza autodrome racetrack / Italy..
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  13. I.T. Guy

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    Sorry for the misinformation I was just copying the old Brochure I was reading

    The guy down the street has a red 430. I just heard it again while typing this message. He drives to Starbucks at least 3 times a day. I can't wait to return the favour with a musical CS note :)
     
  14. jaypeeuk

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    Strad was built on the same line as Modena/Spider and towards the later end of the run, F430 - Challenge cars were built on a separate line adjacent to the road cars.


    P.S. when are you coming for these tyres Trev?
     
  15. Jompen

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    Nice pic tony !!!

    Just got back from this seasons first drive in my CS, omg it´s a blast to drive ! Amazing car indeed.
     
  16. TG

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    I admire you for ownership of such a fine car. I will really enjoy driving mine nonstop when the time comes. My ideal Stradale is white...
     
  17. ThePusher

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    With all due respect... no way the challenge stradale becomes F40 money. I love the stradale and I love the F40. Current F40 trade for 3x to 4x Stradale and the F40 is considered a true supercar. It also captured the era and was Enzo's last car. To be frank the stradale is a hotted up 360... great results and a great car but based on a normal production Ferrari.
     
  18. BigP1202

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    Here's a question. I've always wondered why the press cars don't have the "Challenge Stradale" badge on the back. In some pictures they do, others they don't. What gives??
     
  19. tonyh

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    interesting- in the car vbh tests, there is a "sport" light on the dash instead of "race"; never seen this before
     
  20. scott40

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    Aren't you tired of bashing yet? You constantly post about how these and other models aren't worth much and that they will be worth less tomorrow. It's old. Move on. Go buy one and let us know how much you enjoy the car.
     
  21. John B

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    Here's an interesting anomoly.
    While the CS doesnt have carpet in the interior, the trunk compartment is still carpeted!
    My son pointed this out to me this weekend, we had a good laugh about it.
    I presume it is because there is a lot of wiring etc. that could be fouled by loose stuff in
    the trunk compartment.
     
  22. TG

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    While respecting this thread, can the same be said about a Scuderia? Does the comparison come close?
     
  23. 360trev

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    #75 360trev, Apr 20, 2009
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    It actually saves quite a bit of weight stripping out the front compartment (maybe they didn't do it for better weight balance front to back?), although in fairness it doesn't look all that nice and isn't a very soft place to store for your belongings thereafter. Even though everyone quotes stripping of the interior carpets as a major source of weight saving on the strad it is simply not true. Another fiction. The only reason why the interior carpets on the CS where removed was for the marketing department to help achieve the feeling of the Challenge cars on the CS. Same can even be said of the CF door panels which don't actually save all that much weight compared to the leather Modena ones! Also CF inside a cabin is really bad in an accident as it splinters... some food for thought there...

    Carpet removal was most certainly not done for the weight savings, which are quite frankly next to nothing. Go the toilet before you drive the car and you'll save the same weight :). Another of these was removal of the 'auto' button. All they did was remove the actual button, the actual TCU still has all the software to shift, just with the button deleted [didn't actually save anything] but helped contribute to the feel. In fact for those interested yes you can simply buy a button and wire it back into the loom and hey presto you have 'auto' mode on your CS.

    On the interior carpets front I actually weighed the carpets and they came in surprisingly light (well they do cover only a very small bit of space). You actually save twice as much weight (6kg's [13lbs] by stripping out the front compartment of its carpets, yes thats right only a mere 6 1/2 lbs of weight is saved by junking the carpets themselves in the cabin. It is true that you can just junk the sound deading and save 11lbs [and still retain the carpets]. Compare this with the saving you can get on fitting a titanium exhaust [a staggering 77lbs saved with ti cat bypass pipes fitted!] or a racing gel battery, a further 10kg's [22lbs] and you start to appreciate that Ferrari could have gone much much further on the Strad with weight reduction.

    On the posts re F40 vs Strad. The F40 was a car to compare against the Enzo [or F60 if you like], not the Strad which is a roadcar converted to feel like a Challenge car. The F40 was designed from the outset to be light so they didn't need to strip weight, the entire body was made from CF. Totally different cars. Both excellent in their respective classes.
     

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