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  1. thepinkumbrella

    thepinkumbrella F1 Veteran

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    #1 thepinkumbrella, Apr 20, 2009
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    I received the print copy of the Ferrari auction catalogue at Maranello next month.

    LOT # 220 WILL BE 330 P4 CAN AM SPYDER # 0858

    Nothing online as of yet though...

    Paul
     
  2. Ferrari 360 CS

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    #2 Ferrari 360 CS, Apr 20, 2009
    That car has a great history...was painted in infamous Gunston colours at one stage I think...driven by Paul Hawkins.
     
  3. ClandestineService

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    #3 ClandestineService, Apr 20, 2009
    1967 LeMans 2nd OA, (lost the battle), 1st in Class(won the war)-Championship winner....so say the "all" of the records posted on the Internet...

    How does Ferrari view cars that have had the engines changed, the body changed, and lord kows what else changed..yet is such a monstrously significant historical piece of Automotive Racing History?
    Does it-the P/4-get it's "dog tags" on that note alone...
    At what point are the 'rules' being bent, as opposed to being discarded(broken), in the name of personal valuation agendas?
    It does not become any more clear-this issue of "authenticity and(gulp)"correct-ness"-than does this particular piece of Ferrari lore...
     
  4. jtdoyleiv

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  5. Daytonafan

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  6. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #6 Napolis, Apr 20, 2009
    It would be and for a reasonable price I'm interested. Not sure that my idea of reasonable and the reserve on 0858 will be one and the same in this case...
     
  7. kvisser

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    #7 kvisser, Apr 20, 2009
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  8. poppy84

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    #8 poppy84, Apr 20, 2009
    I think the reserve price will be around 7/8 M€...
     
  9. st@ven

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    #9 st@ven, Apr 20, 2009
    i will visit the auction grounds the day before the auction. I really look forward meeting this beauty!
     
  10. Teenferrarifan

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    #10 Teenferrarifan, Apr 20, 2009
    RM is pulling out the big cars with this and 0714TR up for sale. The numbers could shatter previous top auction sales, and then Mecum is selling the Cobra coupe later in the month! May could set records or be a bust, we will all have to stay posted....
    Erik
     
  11. P4Replica

    P4Replica Formula 3

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    #11 P4Replica, Apr 20, 2009
    Tickled me how RM included photos of the #3 winning Monza P4 berlinetta - which was #0856. #0858 was the 2nd-placed #4 car. :rolleyes:
     
  12. amenasce

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    #12 amenasce, Apr 20, 2009
    Could you have it registered for the road as it is ?
     
  13. Napolis

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    #13 Napolis, Apr 20, 2009
    No.
     
  14. wpbekker

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    #14 wpbekker, Apr 20, 2009
    That wondered me too! It's the old discussion concerning engine swap at Le Mans etc.
    I.m.o. 0858 carried #4 at Monza 1967 but who am I to blow against the wind...
     
  15. msdesignltd

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    #15 msdesignltd, Apr 20, 2009
    no less than 25 million
     
  16. iwanna860monza

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    #16 iwanna860monza, Apr 20, 2009
    Werent the mod's made by Ferrari themselves, then that would probably be ok, as opposed to them being made by cousin vito down the road.

    And could be looking at 10 mil. Euro, but why sell in a downturn ????
     
  17. P4Replica

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    #17 P4Replica, Apr 20, 2009
    Nice to see that they've decalled it up accurately in the livery of Jonathan Williams' #27 Monterey GP Laguna Seca 8th placed car ....
    (The other occasions where it raced in the '67 Can-Am series as #27 - at Las Vegas and Riverside the #27's were a bolder typeface)
    .... pity though that the car still has the large external quick-release fuel filler caps fitted by Paul Hawkin's Team Gunston in 1968.
     
  18. P4Replica

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    #18 P4Replica, Apr 20, 2009
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    BTW .... Front and rear clips on #0858's bodywork are Fiberglass.

    For those of you who haven't seen these photos of #0858 posted by David Moore in an earlier thread ....

    http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86753

    Swallow hard before clicking on the link. Yup - same car !! :eek:
     
  19. Mrpbody44

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    #19 Mrpbody44, Apr 20, 2009
    Could you have it registered for the road as it is

    Farm Use plates no problem
     
  20. kvisser

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    #20 kvisser, Apr 20, 2009
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    Its amazing what a little bit of Turtle Wax will do to shine up a car. I still stand by my original statement, what a sexy beast!

    Thanks for putting up that link.

    regards

    ken
     
  21. Ashman

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    #21 Ashman, Apr 20, 2009
    Wouldn't you have to paint it green and yellow in John Deere colors then????
     
  22. kvisser

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    #22 kvisser, Apr 20, 2009
    As long as you use period authentic British Racing Green, you might have something good looking!

    ken
     
  23. jtdoyleiv

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    #23 jtdoyleiv, Apr 20, 2009
  24. BigTex

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    #24 BigTex, Apr 20, 2009
    This is Medlin's car, sprung loose from the repair bill in Scottsdale AZ, or ???
     
  25. M.James

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    #25 M.James, Apr 20, 2009
    Beat me to it! How can a car with a SERIOUS Mechanic's Lien on it be rolled-out for auction? Walter Medlin can't be in tax-trouble again?
     
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