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  1. jk0001

    jk0001 F1 Veteran

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    Jenson Button says Sebastian Vettel, Mark Webber are unbeatable in wet
    By Robert Grant
    April 20, 2009 Mark Webber's Red Bull team is unbeatable in wet conditions, Formula One championship leader Jenson Button says.

    Young German Sebastian Vettel led Webber to a Red Bull oquinella at the rain-drenched Chinese Grand Prix in Shanghai on Sunday with Button, winner of the season's opening two races, third.

    Button, who has dominated the season to date with his Brawn team, admitted his car could not match the Red Bull in the wet.

    "We obviously would have liked to have come away with the victory this weekend," Button said.

    "In the dry, I think we would have been a lot more competitive. But in the wet, we don't have the pace compared to the Red Bulls.

    "Mark Webber and I had a good fight for a few laps, but I just couldn't stay with him.

    "We couldn't have beaten the Red Bulls. They were just too fast for us today. And when they got a gap of about 15 seconds, we knew that there was nothing we could do."

    Button said he felt powerless whenever he edged closer to a Red Bull car.

    "You can see it in the high-speed corners," he said.

    "When I was behind them - not for long, because they disappeared quite quickly - they can keep a really tight line, whereas we turn in and we end up on the outside of the corner because it feels like we're not going through the water.

    "It feels like we're just floating across the surface of the water.

    "That's something we need to look at. Maybe we're just running the cars too low at the front and that's causing us an issue because it's costing us quite a bit of time."

    Webber, meanwhile, said he and Vettel were fearful their cars would not last the distance because of problems in the lead-up.

    "You have no idea what the guys went through last night,'' Webber said.

    "We were absolutely ****ting ourselves that the cars wouldn't finish the race because every time we ran yesterday (Saturday) they stopped.

    "It was incredible to get the cars home and to get maximum points and to get on the podium so early in the season.

    "This comes after the near-misses in Australia for Sebastian and for myself in Malaysia, and we absolutely deserved it.

    "It wasn't on attrition, it wasn't down to other people's misfortune - it was because today as a team we delivered."

    Webber admitted that the weather conditions - treacherous from start to finish - had been "right on the edge".

    "It was a challenging race at times," he said.

    "It was pretty tough, and it was hard to follow the cars at the beginning due to the spray, but then further into the race it started to settle a bit.

    "I think it was right on the limit in terms of the aquaplaning, though."


    Go Button!
     
  2. rmani

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    vettel truly is remarkable can't say enough about that guy
     
  3. AustinMartin

    AustinMartin F1 Veteran

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    Same. By far my favorite driver in F1.
     
  4. Senna1994

    Senna1994 F1 World Champ

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    One other thing about Vettel, that I like, is his personality after he wins a race. He seems to enjoy it so much and is so pleasant in his interviews, instead of a machine.
     
  5. JoeGuitar

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    +10000

    Couldn't agree more...he is just plain FUN to watch.
     
  6. Drive550PFB

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    He really has emerged as a new star. Glad to see it. He seems like a genuine guy. He appreciates the fact that he is fortunate--talented, but fortunate, too.
     
  7. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I like bit's like this ^ nice to read it's sounds real.

    I don't think anyone dislikes Vettel, he seems a all round a nice guy, in fact I don't really dislike any driver to be honest, and I don't care to much about what I read about them either, it's on the track that matters to me and Vettel has got the lot it seems.

    Jiust hope he speaks his mind and not team scripted BS.
     
  8. RS man

    RS man Formula Junior

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    Reminds me of Schumacher when he started out in F1

    Harry
     
  9. JoeGuitar

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    And honest (almost to a fault if there is such a thing.) Taking the blame for his coming together with Kubica was astonishing, although I respect him for his opinion of what happened.
     
  10. VIZSLA

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    Refreshing indeed.
    Give him a couple more wins and the knives will be out though.
     
  11. Lone Wolf

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    Vettel is a goof. IQ maybe 100 on a good day. Maybe.
     
  12. JoeGuitar

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    Where do you come up with this stuff? Fluent in at least 2 languages and the ability to develop a car better than a seasoned veteran hardly sound like oafish qualities....
     
  13. Lone Wolf

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    The guy is proof positive of the shortage of talent in the world.
     
  14. JoeGuitar

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    You're right...passing multiple world champs, being 3rd in points, and amazing drives in torrential rains are true signs of a hack.
     
  15. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Please don't feed the trolls.
     
  16. JoeGuitar

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    You're right; I have been on forums for a really long time and realize that he is a troll. It's just that he is not even being creative :)
     
  17. Tipo815

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    Seems to me that Schumi was like that throughout his career. Always full of energy and excitement. Vettel definitely reminds me of him - and given the right set of circumstances - will probably deliver like him as well! :)
     
  18. Lone Wolf

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    That's actually a perfect description of Vettel: a TROLL. I agree wholeheartedly.
     
  19. ricksb

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    It took only 58 minutes.

    He's cool, yet very aggressive. It works...probably what makes him so effective in the wet. Very Schumi-ish in interviews and on the podium.
     
  20. GoFerrari28

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    And it doesn't sound scripted or rehearsed. I thought the post race interview with Vettel, Webber and Button was very cordial and lively, unlike interviews of other podium finshers in the past.
     
  21. Lone Wolf

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    Vettel like Schumacher? You guys, PLEAASE, He's German. the similarity ends there. I never heard Schumi apologize for hitting someone! Vettel is a goof. Look closer. Schumacher was a kiliing machine!!!! Please let's not compare the two. It's embarrassing.
     
  22. SRT Mike

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    I dont know what you mean by "goof" but he is a good driver, humble, quick, and all-around talented.

    He is in one of the best cars on the grid, and it will be very interesting to see how well he does. Both of his wins came in wet races where much of the field was shaken up, but I think it's a cinch that he will spank Webber like a redheaded stepchild this year, and is a very likely contender to be the WDC, or at least come in 2nd.

    We shall see, but I think the kid is the real deal.
     
  23. 1_can_dream

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    I think this is the beset part about this season. With the new teams winning races they're not the PR machines that we've come to expect. I really hope that if they keep winning they don't turn their drivers into scripted robots for interviews like the bigger teams have in the past.
     
  24. LightGuy

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    King of the wet ?
    Still Hammy.
    He F'd up by putting too much preassure on himself being the reining WDC and all. Needing to step up to his and others expectations.
    Relax.
    Chill.
    Be yourself and dont force it. It will come like it always has.

    Hedge;
    Either him or Winkelhock ;)
     
  25. Mr Payne

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    Webber did just finish 2nd in the wet. He beat Button, whose speed you seem to respect. Not sure what else you require of him.
     

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