Senna Documentary

I wonder if it will focus on the Imola round with flashbacks of his life to further the story. There was plenty of drama in that weekend with Ratzenberger and Senna.

It has to be hard to make a movie so soon, relatively speaking, from the events of that day. Any deviation from the facts and the afficianados will cry foul, if no artistic license is taken it might not have wide appeal.

 

If it was Hollywood making the movie, they would pick someone like Tom Cruise. Glad this isn't a Hollweird film.

 

Will the film be targeted at the Gay community?

 

Great article on F1-live today by Berger on Senna, since he died exactly 15 years ago today.

 

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Thanks. Here's a link http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090501081206.shtml
Some good stuff on the BBC website too. I think you can only access the video content from the uk though: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/3605323.stm

 

Maybe you should read my post again, I clearly state that Schumacher can be knocked down a peg (or 2 or 3) for his on track antics, so why the "rossa colored glasses" comment ? I wouldn't put either one of them on top for that exact reason, and I'm not trying to promote Prost, (although I prefer him to Senna) my point is that Senna doesn't deserve to be put on a pedestal and worshiped the way he seems to be. You seem to be saying that their faults can be excused because they were generous in giving money to charities, give me a break ! If anything it showed how much of a hypocrite Senna was, run somebody off the track and then go to church and beg forgiveness. Maybe his god did, but no loyal Fan of Ferrari could ever forgive Senna for what he did in 1990, period.

Prost had plenty of reasons to complain at Mclaren, just like any of the so called "equal" #2 drivers that followed him, Coulthard, and that poor Heikki.

If you want a modern driver to admire, go watch Mika Hakkinen win 2 Championships cleanly, using his skill, no shenanigans. Or 1960's/70's Champion Stewart !

Let's have a modern movie about Fangio, He deserves one ! Or Nuvolari, that would be awesome, I doubt either man would be a fan of Senna, and neither am I.

 

Actually Fangio would see Senna and were good friends. Obviously from your previous posts you’re not a fan, but many are and if you ask current and past F1 drivers who was the best a majority of them would say SENNA

 

This began as a comment about a Senna documentary, sharing interesting facts about a future event. You then had to chip in with your opinion of the man. While you are perfectly entitled to your opinion I am not interested in it, it's absolutely irrelevant to me. Why not keep it to yourself. I think most of the Senna detractors (and I'm sure there are many) have a little more consideration than to share their negative comments, particularly on the aniversary of the day he died. Whether you like, admire, respect the man or not he still suffered a very public, shocking and possibly frightening death in front of millions of people, in the name of motorsports and entertainment. RIP to Senna and to Ratzenberger.

 

I think he's part of a very small minority that doesn't like Senna. Oh well, we all know how great he was. That was a tragic weekend, and it could have been 3 drivers that could have died that weekend. Remember, Rubens Barichello had a horrible crash too on Friday's practice.

RIP Ayrton Senna

 

Piquet hinted at Senna being gay in an interview with Penthouse. That's where the gay rumors started. Senna had actually some pretty hot girlfriends. Xuxa comes to mind. Not gay at all.

More important:
Who will play Senna?

I have read now countless articles, but not one would mention the lead role. Which is totally weird, as that's normally the first thing you read about any kind of movie.

 

Himself. It's a documentary. But, where as the other docu's were really made for the small screen this one will be put together specifically to be seen on the big screen.

 

Hmm. My excitement level is dropping significantly.

It can be done as shown with the Jo Siffert documentary, but it is just not the same as a real movie. Quality of the image is a problem for starters. Lack of footage is the next hurdle. Novelty of the material is another problem. I have all the footage from all the F1 races he participated in, I could make my own documentary. How boring would that be?

For comparison, I thought the two movies about Enzo's life "Enzo" and "La Passione" were fantastic as they cast actors to play his part and tell all the stories you normally only read about.

 

Sorry to spoil your Senna love fest Larry, so I'm entitled to my opinion but just keep it off your message board ? Excuse me. You're correct Larry, their are many Senna detractors but they speak Italian not English (or Portuguese) and could care less about your message board, they're called "The Tifosi"...

 

How do you know he wasn't gay ? You don't know for sure, and yet you post that he's "not gay at all" He could have been in the closet for all you know. Could have went both ways, that's more likely.

 

That's a pretty bizarre way of arguing. With that line of "reasoning" pretty much anybody I ever heard of could be gay.

It's kinda funny that you so boldly throw stones while sitting in the Schumacher glass house.

 

JUst curious - Andreas - why the 'Schumacher Glass House' comment? I don't get the connection.............

 

Who's arguing ? Just pointing out the obvious fact that you couldn't possibly know if Senna was gay or not. And you're correct that anybody you "ever heard of " could be gay, even race drivers.

I'm not the biggest Schumy fan either, like Senna he was quite flawed morally but can't deny the obvious results for the Scuderia.

Yes, please explain for us will you Andy...

 

First off I was never a Senna fan (Prost fan, Mansell fan and fan of the early MS). But the man got 3 titles and would have possibly won even more if it hadn't been for a shoddy job on his steering column.

I heard the gay rumors as well, but unless somebody has a really good story other than his rival Piquet mouthing off, I would say this is nonsense.

The glass hourse comment was in regards to Ralf Schumacher, who once threw Katie Price out of his Monaco hotel room because he didn't like the offer.

PS: Scuderia P1 seems to not like Senna for his rough driving, unfair sportsmanship etc. Well, Senna is the man MS learned it from. Personally I'm perfectly fine with that. I like rough driving. What I don't like is lying about it, which both of them did. You call MS a real man for admitting the hit on JV. How about his reaction after the Rascasse parking vs Alonso? Not much manly posture after that one, just plain arrogance and lying.

 

Like I said, I won't argue with anybody who knocks Schumacher for his antics on track, but in the one instance that cost him the most he decided to come clean and admit his intention, and FWIW that decision cost him dearly. Senna on the other hand actually premeditated his actions, sat in his car at the start of the race knowing his intentions and then carried out his plan to run the Ferrari off the track. If he was so great then why do this ? Then people refer to him as being very religious, I don't think so. The post race grilling from the stewards was heated, with Senna holding fast to taking no responsibility for his actions, saying it was an accident, then he turned to his fans and celebrated his Championship, how sad is that ?. I can never forgive this cowardly act , then lying about it for years, then he finally admits to his dishonesty years later. The FIA should have suspended him and stripped him of his championship ! But noooooooo, gutless fools.

Senna's actions in 1990 led to my losing all respect for the sport, going from attending 3 or 4 races a season to none. It took many years for me to become interested again. Honestly, the sport is a pale shadow of it's former self, but when the name Ayrton Senna is mentioned, my blood boils, and it always will. Despite all his talent, he should never be celebrated, he was just a gutless coward as far as I'm concerned.

I hope the movie blows dog, straight to video, losing money for anybody involved.

 

Ok, I've looked and I can't see it printed anywhere that Schumacher admitted to anything in 97. It's not like there was anything to deny. The camera clearly showed him turn right into JV. He had no choice to come clean if he even did. If you respect MS more than Senna because of this incident then you are clearly misguided. The incident in 1990 was clearly Senna's doing, just as the one in 1989 was Prost's. An eye for and eye, I suppose. Many in his position would have done the same especially with the FIA's refusal to change the pole position side like they agreed to before the start of qualifying. Wrong? Absolutely. Worse than what MS did? I'd say not as would many others.

 

+1, I agree with you, not to mention Adelaide fo MS in 1994 as well. Sometimes there is no reasoning with someone that has an agenda, though the timing of jumping in on this thread and p***ing all over Senna with venomous remarks on the 15th anniversary of his death is IMHO a tad bit in bad taste, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have never hated a driver in F1 and have been following it since 1974 religiously. I truly respect the talent all of the drivers have, some much more than others obviously. All of the drivers have their own flaws and moments of ruthless or selfish behavior that are unbecoming, but not one of us can look back on our own lives and say that we have never made a mistake or treated someone in a way that could be construed as unfair. Going back in history, Fangio had his teammate Peter Collins give up his car in the middle of the race at Monza in 1956 so that he could continue to win the WDC, Clark was involved in the wreck that killed Von Trips at Monza in 1961, Lauda walked out on Brabham without any notice in the middle of practice at the 1979 Canadian GP, Gilles Villeneuve was involved in so many accidents that were his own fault earning the name "Rock Ape" early in his career, Prost ran Senna off the track in Suzuka in 1989, Senna ran Prost off the track in 1990, Prost called the Ferrari a "truck" in 1991, Schumacher ran Hill of in Adelaide in 1994, JV off in Jerez in 1997 and parked in Monaco in 2006, Kimi ate ice cream this year and Lewis lied, yada, yada , yada. I guess my point is he who is without sin, cast the first stone, we may have to wait a while, crickets, crickets. Long winded rant, I still love watching all of the above drivers and F1 in general even though the Scuderia is currently experiencing a low point, and count Fangio, Clark, Gilles Villeneuve, Senna and Schumacher as my all time favorites.

 

+1 on all your points

You beat me by 5 years of following F1. I'm always happy when I find someone on here who has followed F1 for more than the past few years.