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  1. jk0001

    jk0001 F1 Veteran

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    http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Sport/Story/STIStory_375181.html

    BARCELONA - DEFENDING world champion Briton Lewis Hamilton clearly blamed his McLaren Mercecdes team for his poor results on Sunday, but refused to concede his title hopes.

    After finishing out of the points in ninth place in the Spanish Grand Prix, won by compatriot Jenson Button for Brawn GP, the 24-year-old Englishman said it was 'a shame' his team had not given him a competitive car.

    Hamilton said: 'It's just that the car is no good, no grip. I had nothing.

    It's just a shame they (the team) have not given me a car to defend my championship.

    'The car is that bad. I am driving the socks off it and there is just no hope.' But he added that he was still impressed with the efforts of the team to improve the car and refused to concede his title defence was over.

    'I am not going even to start thinking like that,' he said.

    'We're not even halfway through the season and the car is just really hardcore.

    'At the moment, for sure, we don't have the car to win the championship, but the team have done a fantastic job and every weekend they do a fantastic job.

    'We have great reliability and the morale in the team is high. It's just a shame.' -- AFP


    More Excuses! :(
     
  2. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Ahh, come on Jim! If it had been JB making those comments you'd have praised him for "telling it the way it is", "not pulling any punches" etc.

    Because it's LH, he's making excuses. He's simply admitting that the car is a POS. Good for him! [Rather than the politically correct BS we normally get of course.]

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  3. Ambassiatore

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    #3 Ambassiatore, May 11, 2009
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    Absolutely.The McLaren has had a double decker difusser for two races and nothing gets better.I´d be Hearthbroken!!!

    Hamilton is right, the cars is worthless, and this time....He´s in for a character building season with that car, damn they are slow!!!!

    and no light in the end of the tunnel so far...

    Glad to see the guy is getting to grips with loosing his "Diva" status over Button...real soon
     
  4. jk0001

    jk0001 F1 Veteran

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    If he is the F1 God that you all make him out to be, then he should win in anything. I guess he is just human like the rest of us. :D
     
  5. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Hamilton had great equipment since his career was taken over my Mclaren. Now, in just a few races in a ****ty car, and he goes public and blames the team? AS far as i'm concerned, he is a team leader, and should get the team back on it's feet and stop complaining. He's a world champion, he should start acting and being matured like one.
     
  6. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I guess we read stuff differently:

    Hardly blaming the team!..... Blame the car - Sure, we can all see it's crap, he simply said so...... If he'd said "the cars great" we'd be all over him for his political correctness and inability to "tell it like it is"......

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  7. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

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    I really do not think Hamilton's comments were intended to be a slam on the team, nor do I think he is making excuses. I think he stated the truth, the car is bad, yet the team is working hard to improve the chassis.

    Having said that, Button will give the WDC title a much better image.
     
  8. jk0001

    jk0001 F1 Veteran

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    Martin Whitmarsh had a farm
    E I E I O.
    And on that farm he had a Lewis Hamilton
    E I E I O
    With a *itch *itch here, *itch *itch there, Complaining and *itching constantly everywhere
    Martin Whitmarsh had a farm
    E I E I O !

    Now everyone sing! :D :D
     
  9. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I'll sing : Swanee River if you go down it...:D
     
  10. ricksb

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    #10 ricksb, May 11, 2009
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    Since anything involving you and Hamilton is a repost anyway, I'll cut-and-paste my response from the other thread:

    Too funny. Jim, we get it, you loathe/abhor/hate/despise Lewis Hamilton. If Hamilton perished in an on-track accident, you would celebrate with a "Hooray, Hambone got cooked!" thread. His car sucks...even moreso with no improvements made from the last race. Until McLaren does something to improve the quality of the machine, he's going to be a middle-of-the-pack competitor. Put him in the Brawn and he'd run away with the WDC. Put him in Red Bull and he would arguably lead the championship. Put him in the Ferrari and they'd find a myriad of ways to piss away races (remember last year before assuming I'm just looking at their string of "bad luck" in '09). BTW, finishing position does count when the money is divided, so I wouldn't say he raced for nothing.
     
  11. ricksb

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    He's definitely as human as Alonso, Massa and Raikkonen...three other WDC/WCC champions who are saddled in crappy cars (or crappy teams, in Ferrari's case). I still think that two of those three (along with Hamilton) would be winning the championship this year if their cars were at least as strong as the Red Bull (not the best on the grid, but a game competitor).
     
  12. jk0001

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    That has to be one of the sickest things I have ever heard. You should be banned for just for thinking such misery on another human being. Don't try to link me with your sicko thoughts. You should seek professional help. I may not prefer LH as a driver, but it takes a real sicko to come up with hate like that. :(
     
  13. ricksb

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    Please...save the histrionics. The point is simple; you seem to be SOOOOOO obsessed with seeing Hamilton fail in any significant or insignificant way that it appears you have something truly personal against the guy. Manufactured outrage at an over-the-top statement is probably lost on others who've read your constant diatribe against this kid...you clearly have something against him and none of us can really figure out why you're so obsessed with him.

    No need to be a drama queen with all the "sicko" stuff...
     
  14. thirteendog

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    Rick most of us just ignore him. I suggest you do the same, it's easier that way.
     
  15. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I think you are both a little right and wrong. HE is part of the team. HE has a lot of responsibility in getting the car competitive too.

    It would have been far better for him to say WE are having trouble putting a good car out there.



    Ian you know better than many of us how those teams work. If he is part of the solution and everyone down to the jack man knows it things go much better.
     
  16. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Hell Jim's gotta fan apart from me...:confused:

    A respected one I hasten to add..;)
     
  17. jk0001

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    Its one thing to not prefer a driver, it is quite another issue when someone wishes personal harm and pain to him, and laughs about it. That is just weird.
     
  18. senna21

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    Really? So you'd say the same of Senna or Prost? Both of whom regularly would say if they thought the car was junk or not. Or even if it drove like a tractor. ;)
     
  19. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Fair comment, agreed. MS was the master of those type of comments - Always "we should, we failed, etc". However, I haven't listened to the whole interview and suspect the legendary British press is doing it's usual "out of context", quote what they want nausea so I'm prepared to cut him a little slack. I'm not an LH fan (actually, it's more that I despise anyone who's driving for Mclaren - If he were to do a Kimi I'd instantly be his biggest booster btw!)

    Having said all that, I think their drivers lack of experience is starting to hurt - LH stepped in to the best car last year (with Fred's setup if we believe the "rumors") and really didn't have to provide the feedback a Mario provided for example. Now they're struggling, who they gonna ask? Heikki?...... I suspect (hope!) they won't do a lot until they get an experienced jockey in there to tell 'em what the hells going on, beyond the above quoted:

    I'm pretty sure MS never said such a thing......

    Big +1

    I worked for guys I'd have taken a bullet for - If we had bullets in England of course - And others where it was little more than a job - Get it prepared and get to the pub.....

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  20. SRT Mike

    SRT Mike Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Almost as much of a sicko to come up with racist stuff about Hamilton, and get banned for it, eh?
     
  21. Etcetera

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    I generally take what the press says about Ham...the half dozen or so "contoversial" things he has said weren't...at least not in my opinion after seeing the videos.

    MS...I think the worst thing I ever heard him say was after a disappointing race, "The Bridgstones I don't think are quite there yet..."
     
  22. jk0001

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    #22 jk0001, May 11, 2009
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    I would expect a comment like that from a racist who refers to his so called employees as peons, I really feel sorry for anyone who works for you. I have never read anything positive in any of your post. I see that you are back to trolling again, even after you were warned.
     
  23. PSk

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    #23 PSk, May 11, 2009
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    It takes a really good driver to be competitive in a bad car ... and there have been many drivers who have been able to do this: Nuvolari, Fangio, Moss, G Villenenuve and MS. Even Alonso a couple of times.

    Pete
     
  24. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    jk0001 and SRT Mike, COOL IT.

    Dial back the personal BS and stay on topic or you might not be posting here until the season is half over.

    If you can't play nicely with each other, hit the DAMN ignore button.

    Grazie,

    Dave
     
  25. ATBNM3

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    Bravo +a million!
     

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